You gotta stop counting total users. Only active users should be counted. We know there’s utterly massive numbers of bots being created. Plus people have multiple accounts from trying out different instances even if they’ll only use one.
True. I’ve created at least 4, myself.
But the bot + duplicate account numbers keep going up and I really like exponential growth
People love vanity metrics, though.
Look, I’ve quit Reddit because fuck spez, and now have confirmation bias that needs answering. Just…let me have this.
True, I have 9 accounts so far between instances… I don’t think I’ll make anymore I’m quite comfortable now, but yeah, I inflated the stats. Sorry…
There was a pretty big jump in active instances, too!
Active daily user count is about 50k.
Good to see, but as with all posts like this, it’s important to note that the really important number is “Active Users” That number has gone up significantly as well, just not as fast as number of accounts.
What’s considered an “Active User”?
A person who posted/commented in the last 30 days
From the docs: "Lemmy also shows counts of active users for your site, and its communities. These are counted within the last day, week, month, and half year, and are cached on starting up lemmy, and every hour.
An active user is someone who has posted or commented on our instance or community within the last given time frame. For site counts, only local users are counted. For community counts, federated users are included."
https://join-lemmy.org/docs/contributors/07-ranking-algo.html
I’ve posted more in the week I joined here than I ever did in Reddit.
So 1 time?
Just checked. Yup, one post. Still helping the fediverse in my book.
maybe wee_butterfly didn’t retain memories from when was a wee_caterpillar
Yeah this is a good point.
It took me months to actually start using Lemmy and Mastodon. I would consider myself a tech savvy person and it still took a while getting used too. I think there need to be better tutorials linked on the sign-up pages that help people understand the basic concepts. That would help drive true user acquisition.
I’m also a “tech savvy” and still trying to understand how all this works…
I just started with mastodon. Lemmy I’m pretty understanding at but do you have any people/ hashtags you reccomend following on mastodon to not make the whole place feel so small and repetitive? I’m interested in pretty much anything.
I use the advanced UI and have various columns pinned with hashtags I’m interested in. Just jumping in and joining convos, commenting on interesting projects I see etc has worked fine for me, got two accounts on two fairly small servers and they both have very active feeds and lots of engagement.
Pick something you want to talk to people about, and just go for it tbh.
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Do you need to for some reason? You can subscribe, comment, and post to any community that’s federated with your home instance.
If you’re on Lemmy.ml and the comm you want to sub to us on Lemmy.world, you should be able to find and subscribe in the “communities” section. As long as it’s filtered for all communities and not just your “local” instance.
Ribbits
Subscribe pending is a bug, you are subscribed, it just says pending for some reason. I am still pending on a community that I moderate.
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If two instances are federated you can access communities on both from either instance.
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Daily active users is a much more reliable statistic due to bots
Source: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats
Yup, came here to say that as well. it’s al bots. The active users graph is much more realistic.
And I’ve been seeing some…odd looking… comments recently from users at instances known for being mostly bots. Some of these comments really look AI generated, and have a suspicious number of upvotes.
wow! look at those bots go! go speed racer!
Spez gettin sweaty
arms are heavy
Mom’s forgetty
Are any of these accounts bots?
Or maybe how many of these accounts are bots?
Are they all bots?
Are any of these accounts bots?
About 2.45 million of the 2.5 are, yes.
I’m no bot and joined 6 days ago :)
Welcome friend.
Around 95% accounts are bots. Around 90% if we are positive and assume that a lot of redditors joined since the bot farming started.
Thats seems bad. I know some bots are hepful. But 1 million bots seems like they for something nefariously.
Yeah, I hope that people farming them are just trolling the fediverse and don’t plan on using them.
Lol trolling is bad. A bot army could make things miserable here.
Trolling in the sense making people freak out while not doing anything with those bots. That’s what I’m hoping for although it’s improbable.
Like trying to keep people on reddit?
Or just too generally troll the fediverse.
I’d go to Facebook first
So what are the Bots doing? Who created them and why? I don’t understand the purpose of bots.
So what are the Bots doing?
Many of them are doing nothing so far.
No doubt they are available for sale to some company or individual that wants to buy them wholesale and start spamming or astroturfing.
Who created them and why?
People wanting to sell them for $$ mostly. In some cases, people biding their time to use them for mass spam, social misdirection, opinion forming, etc.
I don’t understand the purpose of bots.
In social media, a common and concerning use of them is to use them wholesale (comments, posts, and votes) to try and sway mass opinion on some issue to something the person responsible for the bots wants.
Currently nothing but once activated they may start spamming stuff everywhere. Owners can decide what gets upvotes and what gets downvotes which gives you a lot of power on a platform where downvotes/upvotes mean everything.
Still don’t get it - someone makes a comment, bots upvote it so it gets seen by more people. Not really going to change the world.
Sure, but do you like ads that masquerade as posts? Because if you do then you’ll love the delicious taste of Diet Coke, grab one today! (16900 upvotes)
They don’t want to change the world. They want to let you know about hot singles in your area
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Yes unfortunately but lemmy is still growing
I’m going to link my comment because I don’t want to rewrite ot for everyone I reply to where it is relevant
Thanks for the reply!
And I totally agree.
+1, just joined the party.
good to see but hope the bots can be purged at some point.
gas gas gas
Look at the graph and the uptick in activity. Note that on June 8, Reddit’s u/iamthatis posted Apollo’s intent to shut down.
https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/144f6xm/apollo_will_close_down_on_june_30th_reddits/
Yeah I just found out about this project/the fediverse, been looking for several weeks for the best replacement to Reddit and this is by far the most promising. Also, as a self-hosting enthusiast, I’m liking this place more and more by the minute. With any luck increased visibility will continue to push activity & content. Power to the people.
It’ll take a while for the volume to trickle down to the smaller more niche communities, but I have already seen the volume increase tremendously in the large ones. Let’s enjoy the ride.
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Misinformation, everything is working fine!
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Switch instances
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Yes.
But lemmy.world seems to be working just fine to me. It is your instance, isn’t it? You may have got some transient problem, or have a problem on your side.
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Yeah, after I wrote that comment I saw many more people complaining about slowness earlier today.
It’s normal for me right now, but it’s common that the performance varies from one place to another. But if you found some other instance that is consistently faster, that’s great.
Very nice to see this for Lemmy.
