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- technology@beehaw.org
‘Unlike some of the 3P [third-party] apps, we are not profitable,’ Steve Huffman says in defending the move to charge for high-volume API access.
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It’s why I’m here, and I’m liking it so far
Same. Honestly I don’t even miss Reddit. Fuck that place
Yeah, only thing missing are the amount of people but that’s a problem that’s being fixed every passing day.
I’m actually having a lot of fun watching this place grow! It feels like a smaller community, but I’ve watched it expand so fast in the past week. Now that we’ve surpassed 100,000 people it feels like we’ve reached the point of it having enough mass that it can sustain itself. Once we reach a million I really think we’ll start getting more attention and at around 10 million we’ll be approaching terminal velocity. People on Reddit have been wanting a good alternative, but are just afraid of losing the large community vibe. It’s going to take time, but this week has felt like hope.
I just want enough people to have most popular/semi popular subs to have a decent number of conversation going. It doesn’t need to get AS populous as Reddit is right now.
This sucks for reddit, but I think this will be good for the internet in the long run. This is hopefully gonna push people into the fediverse and reduce reliance on these megacorp data mining operations.
11 years on reddit and seeing its long slow decline its just sad. A return to the basics was very necessary. Removing subs from r/all, messing with the voting, “new” reddit, a clamp down on content…it just kept getting worse and worse. As long as I could use RIF and old.reddit it was fine, but the writing is on the wall at this point.
While most of their users are used to the newer layout from other social media, my goal was always to see the most number of posts I could on a single page and have a clean ad-free experience. Lemmy seems to get this
The statement from r/watchredditdie when they closed the sub really put things in perspective for me.
Steve Huffman and Alexis Ohanian have gone so far as to renege on their promise of listing Aaron Swartz among Reddit, Inc’s founders. Such an egregious breach of contract - only performed once their agreed-upon co-founder no longer walked the earth - could only be carried out by immoral individuals acting in fundamental bad faith. In this way and so many others, Reddit is dead.
If true, that actually speaks volumes. Like what kind of guy removes a dead man, at some point revered, from the list of co-founders. What do you lose by not doing it? What did you win by doing it? I mean, the odds are you lost more than anything. Besides, he should have been your partner. Even if you did for the cash, what about all the moments you had with him? Was Aaron such a piece that you’d rather have him erased?
I seriously can’t get it.
Ego. Tremendously inflated ego, perhaps stoked by watching Musk and thinking “great idea, I can do that too!”…?
Aaron Swartz will always be the real spiritual founder of what Reddit was at its best for me. Huffman will be the fool that didn’t understand the ethos of it and drove it into the ground in his greed.
Whoa. I missed this tidbit of information. Aaron Swartz’s memory defiled by their actions just reaffirms my decision to leave.
It’s like Reddit forgot the Digg flood back in the day and is making the same poor choices Digg made that drew so many people to reddit a decade ago.
There was never serious competition to threaten Reddit before. Voat was the closest, but when legitimate redditfugees got there it was already full of a critical mass of Nazis (actual Nazis, not “everyone I don’t like is a Nazi”) and people who thought spamming slurs was peak free speech. Not exactly a solid foundation for popular new site.
Well said.
In that case, I think the reddit administration did a good job of excising the people it didn’t want, letting them take root elsewhere before the main mass went to check that place out, and letting that main mass come right back.
At the time, I thought it was a calculated and intelligent move on their part, fully intentional.
After what we’re seeing now, I think maybe they lucked out.
I guess it’s some sort of Hanlon’s Inverse Corollary: Never attribute to intelligence what can be adequately explained by dumb luck.
Those who forget history are doomed to get downvoted to oblivion.
Welp, that means i ma more likely to stay here. I am interested to see where this will be going
That’s the final move to help me change from reddit to Lemmy !
I’m looking forward to what Lemmy will bring! Brb deleting my reddit account.
Joke’s on you u/Spez: we’ve got a new Reddit, with blackjack and hookers!
Cool–we’re sticking with Lemmy.
Kbin has entered the chat
Lol I jest especially as Kbin and Lemmy play nice with each other too!
It’s going to take a bit to get used to, but I’m like Lemmy for the most part.
Haven’t removed my reddit account, but I only have one sub that is still online at this point.
Really does feel like they killed a giant.
I am so hesitant to delete my Reddit account. I’ve had it for 12 years and there is a small bit of me that hopes they will fire u/spez and go back to the Reddit I have loved for so long. As long as he is around though I won’t be going back and it really does feel as though they have killed a giant.
Yeh well. Maybe one day reddit simply becomes one of the larger lemmy instance.
I have the same hope but they’re probably going to make the changes, make spez the fall guy, pay him fuck off money…and they’ll go about their merry way. It’s sad that Reddit trying to become a generic social media platform rather than just do it’s own thing.
Yeah, I’ll keep my account but my eyeballs aren’t going to be there nearly as often. Just like I still check Fark out once in a while but don’t stick around long.
It should never be about profit. It’s always been about…
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Passion.
That’s Steve “I think the problem Digg had is that it was a company that was built to be a company, and you could feel it in the product. The way you could criticise Reddit is that we weren’t a company – we were all heart and no head for a long time. So I think it’d be really hard for me and for the team to kill Reddit in that way.” Huffman everyone.
Yep. I think the community that comes after Reddit needs to be under the umbrella of a nonprofit, whose mission in life is to keep the community alive, fundraise for resources, keep a moderation system in place to keep out difficult people, etc. Nonprofit because while a for-profit business is required by law to maximize profits for owners & shareholders, a nonprofit is required by law to do the beneficial thing for the community.
Can someone explain why going dark for 48 hours would make Reddit’s response unexpected? Basically they just need to bear 48 hours and then no consequences? What’s the motivation to overturn the API decision?
Already deleted my account. Feels good. The more I think about it, the more the fediverse feels like a saviour for the internet. It should be a no brainer that any single company that makes a social media will sooner or later try to do anything they can to profit 110% from their users.
Lemmy and other decentralized plattforms seems more like how the internet is supposed to be. No one owns any greater part of it. This is history in the making, the time we got the internet back!
I have thoroughly enjoyed Lemmy and Beehaw over this weekend. I’m not expecting anything out of reddit.
Reddit was my home for 12 years and I really feel like it boiled down to three really uses of my time:
- cultivated communities
- niche knowledge
- scrolling through all
I have had a taste of being part of a community this weekend that reminds me of what reddit was like a decade ago. This really removed the sting of disconnecting all my apollo widgets and shortcuts. Lemmy, kbin, etc may lead to a new future for those of us looking for somewhere new.
Niche knowledge? I think that’s one thing that just will be on reddit for the foreseeable future but as communities move and shift away, it’ll disperse across the internet. I do see myself still searching through reddit results via google when searching for a personalized review or specific information. But it will become a get-in, get-out process.
Scrolling? Reddit leadership is so dumb. they’ve catered to this feature and this user base for all the marbles of their IPO. Scrolling is the least unique feature to reddit compared to other social media. And reddit’s scrolling was highly dependent on your feed and could sometimes not be that great. Scrolling can be replaced by anything from tiktok to instagram to other forums and new sites
Even this weekend on Beehaw, I’ve seen reviews of fountain pens, a storm over Scotland, trailers for new games on the horizon and little bits of people’s lives shared and connected. If I can continue to have an experience like this? I won’t even miss reddit.
It’s going to be an interesting new future
Agreed. I replaced the Reddit app icon in my launcher with the one for Lemmy (Jerboa). 98% of the time I’m just mindlessly scrolling and looking at images or memes and occasionally the interesting article. So far, even the minimal content on Lemmy (and Instagram and Tumblr) has filled that need.
Probably two or three times now I’ve pulled up Reddit specifically to look something up, and that just says to me how often I actually engage with the communities there that matter to me. Reddit will no longer be getting hundreds of hits per day from me. If I need to look something up, maybe I’ll go look, and hopefully the communities I joined, like guitar, motorcycles, ADHD, pizza, and other niche interests, will develop elsewhere.
Same exact situation for me, down to putting Jerboa where RIF used to be. I think the appeal to Beehaw for me is its emphasis on community. I’ve been on the internet for a hot minute, and I didn’t realize that I actually missed having a sense of community online. Reddit was basically a source of content for me, and I would lurk almost exclusively. With Lemmy, I’m finding myself commenting and responding far more often. I’m not entirely sure what the difference is here, but I just feel more inclined to actually participate here.
and that’s why im here.
Important to note that this article went up before the subreddits went down.
