UPS delivers some smishing advice (but have they kept something under wraps?), we ask ChatGPT to take a long hard look at itself, and we debate what the penalty should be for taking national secrets home with you.

All this and much much more is discussed in the latest edition of the “Smashing Security” podcast by cybersecurity veterans Graham Cluley and Carole Theriault, joined this week by Host Unknown’s sole founder Thom Langford.

Warning: This podcast may contain nuts, adult themes, and rude language.