• Pokethat@lemm.ee
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    2 years ago

    Bruh, just do your job/hobby. Mods acting high and mighty is a big part of what made reddit so toxic.

    • Imotali@lemmy.worldM
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      2 years ago

      This is my job: to make perfectly clear what is and isn’t allowed. In no uncertain terms I will make sure this place is as free from transphobia as possible.

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      2 years ago

      The good thing about Lemmy you can move to another instance with free speech.

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        2 years ago

        This is free speech. They get to say what they please. They are not free from the consequences of those words however. I, as a private citizen and not a governmental actor, can censor them.

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          2 years ago

          I disagree, free speech means the right to express any opinions and ideas without censorship or restraint even if you find them offensive.

          You said you will remove any comment that is transphobic and ban if “you make an egregiously off colour comment”.

          That is not free speech, and it’s ok. Your instance, your rules.

          • Captain_Waffles@lemmy.world
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            2 years ago

            Free speech is about the government not being able to restrict your speech. Guess what? Lemmy isn’t the government.

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              2 years ago

              Lemmy is a protocol so there can be instances with free speech even if you don’t like it.

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                2 years ago

                This makes no sense in reply to my comment. Free speech is about the government, changing Lemmy instances won’t change the fact that Lemmy is not the government. My opinion, views, etc have nothing to do with this. As far as free speech is concerned a community would be free to remove trans positive comments if they so chose.

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                  2 years ago

                  I disagree free speech also applies to institutions, social or cultural norms and platforms as Lemmy.

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            2 years ago

            They can say what they want without restraint or restriction. They are not free from the consequences of their words.

            They can say what they like. We can ban them if we don’t like it. That’s how free speech works in a consequentialist society (modern Western society is a synthesis of consequentialism and contractualism).

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              2 years ago

              Censor and banning opinions and ideas you don’t like is anti free speech.

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                2 years ago

                You were allowed to say it. I’m allowed to remove it. Welcome to the world. Don’t like it? Leave.

                But also: nobody in the world actually likes the idea of absolutist free speech. The founding fathers certainly didn’t believe in such an idea.