Ok. This is interesting, if a bit conspiracy-theory-ish:
moles from BigTech, are boycotting any substantial work on Xorg, in order to destroy the project, to elimitate competition of their own products. Classic “embrace, extend, extinguish” tactics.
Right after first journalists began covering the planned fork Xlibre, on June 6th 2025, Redhat employees started a purge on the Xlibre founder’s gitlab account on freedesktop.org: deleted the git repo, tickets, merge requests, etc,
I wonder what the story behind this is. Why would anyone want to hinder progress on X11?
I read it, it didn’t feel very convincing to me. I wish them luck with the project for sure, more options are always better, but I don’t think companies not spending money on it is sabotage, and I don’t really trust their thing about persecution given the weird anti-DEI rant. This has the smell of https://xkcd.com/1357/ all over it.
Oof. I didn’t get that far. They really mention DEI in the project README? That’s going to be a hard no from me. Even if I did agree with them, it has no place in the repo.
Well I’m sure there are a lot of right wing movements and some of them are aggressive but I personally only mind people who don’t respect others and I haven’t found a difference between left wing and right wing people in terms of that. However left leaning ones do it in disguise and lie about themselves so my choice was obvious. I value honesty too after all.
Being left or right doesn’t make you good or bad. There are plenty of reasonable right-wing groups. However few to none of them identify as right wing. The Democrats in the United States for instance. A staunchly, solidly right-wing group. That most people somehow mistakenly think are left wing.
No, the people desperate to identify themselves with vagaries such as left or right. Almost without exception are some of the worst most horrible people you’ll ever meet. Only trying to deny the failures of their ideas, or deflect from the horrible things they want to do to others. Leninists and fascists are both Prime examples of this.
Anyone who talks or acts like DEI is a problem is a clown who deserves to be ridiculed. Its possible to have substantive nuanced criticism of DEI. Left or right. But DEI isn’t the problem. The people whining about it typically are.
It’s in the readme. Several comments above this and around this all mention it. You can search for it and you will find it.
Dei really shouldn’t be considered politics of course. It should just be a part of being a decent person. But those who persecute others or don’t care about the persecution of others at least. Always have to put on a show to make everything about them. How acknowledging traditionally excluded people is somehow an attack or imposition on them
Ok. This is interesting, if a bit conspiracy-theory-ish:
I wonder what the story behind this is. Why would anyone want to hinder progress on X11?
Nobody wants to “hinder progress” on x11, there’s just not much point focusing resources on a deprecated project…
I mean, read the github README. The author is claiming that there are people trying to sabotage progress on X11.
If there are folks actively working on a fork, then it’s not deprecated, is it?
I read it, it didn’t feel very convincing to me. I wish them luck with the project for sure, more options are always better, but I don’t think companies not spending money on it is sabotage, and I don’t really trust their thing about persecution given the weird anti-DEI rant. This has the smell of https://xkcd.com/1357/ all over it.
Oof. I didn’t get that far. They really mention DEI in the project README? That’s going to be a hard no from me. Even if I did agree with them, it has no place in the repo.
Big oof. I should have finished reading.
I think it’s more about the politics, not X11 itself. Right wing people are getting harassed as always.
They wouldn’t get harassed if they minded their own business and stopped harassing others.
Well I’m sure there are a lot of right wing movements and some of them are aggressive but I personally only mind people who don’t respect others and I haven’t found a difference between left wing and right wing people in terms of that. However left leaning ones do it in disguise and lie about themselves so my choice was obvious. I value honesty too after all.
Being left or right doesn’t make you good or bad. There are plenty of reasonable right-wing groups. However few to none of them identify as right wing. The Democrats in the United States for instance. A staunchly, solidly right-wing group. That most people somehow mistakenly think are left wing.
No, the people desperate to identify themselves with vagaries such as left or right. Almost without exception are some of the worst most horrible people you’ll ever meet. Only trying to deny the failures of their ideas, or deflect from the horrible things they want to do to others. Leninists and fascists are both Prime examples of this.
Anyone who talks or acts like DEI is a problem is a clown who deserves to be ridiculed. Its possible to have substantive nuanced criticism of DEI. Left or right. But DEI isn’t the problem. The people whining about it typically are.
Wait, what? How did politics come into this? Did they talk about DEI in the README? I didn’t read the whole thing.
That would be disappointing.
It’s in the readme. Several comments above this and around this all mention it. You can search for it and you will find it.
Dei really shouldn’t be considered politics of course. It should just be a part of being a decent person. But those who persecute others or don’t care about the persecution of others at least. Always have to put on a show to make everything about them. How acknowledging traditionally excluded people is somehow an attack or imposition on them