My brother, how many examples do you need? Without mentioning the 30s and 40s, look at the Tuskegee Experiment where men were given syphilis intentionally and withheld treatment to study it’s spread in black populations. Or the San Francisco Operation Sea-Spray when dangerous bacterial were sprayed over the entire city to study it’s effects on the population. Ethical frameworks exist to prevent people from harming others in the pursuit of data, because if they aren’t prevented they will. I order to prevent this harm from being done, a clearly defined set of principles must be stated and written down so that everyone involved can have the same understanding when designing and approving studies.
Yes. Those are examples of science being done unethically. Science itself is a process that is ethically neutral so it can be used in both good and bad ways. That doesn’t make it unethical by nature like the original post claims it is.
Scientific study is by nature unethical because one must do unethical things in it’s pursuit. We have ethical frameworks around Scientific Study for a reason, and it isn’t because it was doing fine without those frameworks.
Ah yes, everyone knows how famously unethical astronomers are, they should respect the privacy and consent of supernovas. Filthy perverts peeping on those innocent stars!
As soon as someone comes up with a clear-cut example of science that you can’t pervert, you call them a troll and move on. Typical of a sealion who claims they want to discuss but actually just wants to beat someone with their opinion, just like in your other thread where you try and cram religion into morality.
And scientific study is unethical… How?
My brother, how many examples do you need? Without mentioning the 30s and 40s, look at the Tuskegee Experiment where men were given syphilis intentionally and withheld treatment to study it’s spread in black populations. Or the San Francisco Operation Sea-Spray when dangerous bacterial were sprayed over the entire city to study it’s effects on the population. Ethical frameworks exist to prevent people from harming others in the pursuit of data, because if they aren’t prevented they will. I order to prevent this harm from being done, a clearly defined set of principles must be stated and written down so that everyone involved can have the same understanding when designing and approving studies.
Yes. Those are examples of science being done unethically. Science itself is a process that is ethically neutral so it can be used in both good and bad ways. That doesn’t make it unethical by nature like the original post claims it is.
We are on the same page.
Scientific study is by nature unethical because one must do unethical things in it’s pursuit. We have ethical frameworks around Scientific Study for a reason, and it isn’t because it was doing fine without those frameworks.
Ah yes, everyone knows how famously unethical astronomers are, they should respect the privacy and consent of supernovas. Filthy perverts peeping on those innocent stars!
You should find something better to do than being a troll.
As soon as someone comes up with a clear-cut example of science that you can’t pervert, you call them a troll and move on. Typical of a sealion who claims they want to discuss but actually just wants to beat someone with their opinion, just like in your other thread where you try and cram religion into morality.
Idiots do nothing but come up with exceptions for other idiots to clap at.
Exceptions disprove your blanket statement.
My “blanket statement” was a “shower thought” you absolute fucking genius. lol
“I’m not wrong; you’re a troll!”
fucking lmao- actual ad homenim and not just an insult? You rarely see it.
Funny, I was going to say the same to you