Edit: We survived an ice age and we’re very highly adaptable. Plus, we will hold on to some percentage of technical knowledge that will help us adapt faster.

  • Cricket [he/him]@lemmy.zipEnglish
    211·
    2 days ago

    I’m not sure exactly what you mean regarding health and lifespan, but I think looking forward from 2025, things are quickly going to go off the rails. We’ve already been seeing severe problems resulting from climate change for years now, and I think that it’s going to rapidly get worse within the next 5-10 years. I’m not talking about sea level rise (except in very vulnerable places that are already partially underwater, like Florida), but about intensifying weather disasters, droughts, and shocks to the global food supply. As a result of this, I think we will see more and more unrest as well as authoritarianism used to deal with that unrest. How quickly all this is going to decimate the population is anyone’s guess.

    • higgsboson@piefed.socialEnglish
      32·
      1 day ago

      looking forward from 2025, things are quickly going to go off the rails.

      Going to? Going to? Have you not… /gestures vaguely

    • null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      22·
      1 day ago

      I disagree.

      I dont think its particularly likely there will be famines in the next 5 years or so on a scale that can’t be countered by aid.

      Sure, economies might start to feel some very serious consequences, shit might start to get very real, I just dont think we’re quite at the point where people start dying.

      • Cricket [he/him]@lemmy.zipEnglish
        1·
        18 hours ago

        I have mixed feelings about it. I think it’s perhaps 50/50 on whether things really go crazy within 5-10 years. It’s definitely more than 0% chance, especially considering that people have already been dying due to climate change for quite a while now (extreme weather events, drought, and related conflicts).

        • null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          1·
          11 hours ago

          I guess it’s subjective.

          Sure, climate change is starting to have an impact and more people might die due to malnutrition which is related.

          My predictions within 5 years are something like :

          • intensifying weather events like floods, storms, cyclones / hurricanes, to a point where insurance becomes a real unavoidable problem, putting trillions of dollars of real estate at risk.
          • intensifying weather events like droughts where some traditionally viable agricultural areas no longer are, maybe a 10% reduction of arable land in any given region.
          • localised famine events generating a few hundred thousand climate change refugees per year.
          • increasing commercial interest in arable land in regions less likely to be impacted, farm values doubling in some areas
          • increasing political interest in arable land in these same regions, with escalating political tension

          I think societal collapse is still a decade away at least. However, the poor and impoverished are certainly going to start to feel the burn.

          On the one hand I have a left leaning progressive mind set and have with young children - I’m heavily motivated to try to change our trajectory. On the other hand I’m 43 years old and I don’t remember a period where people weren’t predicting societal collapse in 5 years.

          Climate change is bad. Mass extinctions, severe weather events, and famine, are all a certainty in the coming years. However, this needs to be balanced by technological advancements that are going to mitigate the effects. Just as an example, we can produce more food from less land than ever in history.