• ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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    20 hours ago

    gotta roll out that sweet propaganda. can’t have people be worried about your genocides.

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    22 hours ago

    One reason less for me to scroll dancing girls and brain rot on this.

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    1 day ago

    Can it NOT have an algorithm? Just chronological please. Same with literally any other feed type site. Don’t throw random crap in my feed.

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      9 hours ago

      No, it’s can’t not have an algorithm. Just “sort by new”, for example, is an algorithm.

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      13 hours ago

      This is a strange take on a website that doesn’t show a chronological feed (by default anyway).

      The problem is that chronological feeds suck hard when activity levels go above a certain threshold. You’d refresh the page and get an entire new set of posts because since last you refreshed, there were 100000 posts made. Chronological is not feasible in that scenario.

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        That would greatly depend on how many people/places you follow. I ran like this for years on FB and Twitter and never had an issue like that. If I refreshed it’s because I wanted to see newer stuff. That said I only had like 100-150 follows on either and those places/people don’t post THAT often. And with Chronological, you can stop when get to posts you’ve seen, or have some idea if you missed a chunk. It worked so much better and it’s how I sort Lemmy.

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          2 hours ago

          That’s fine, but most people don’t want their feeds like that. I for sure don’t have time to follow literally all posts from the things I follow - I need some sort of filtering mechanism.

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            So, how do you know you’re not missing something important or interesting? Whats the point if you can’t guarantee things you want to see aren’t being pushed out of view by the algorithm? To me, that completely defeats the point of using something like that. Without using chronological, I’d regularly get told about things I cared to know, well after the event happened. I’d miss notifications from friends and family that were important to me. Even with favoriting certain things, it made having that feed useless and it’s one of many reasons I stopped using them. It’s useless without knowing that I can see what I care to see.

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              I would never use an algorithmic feed for friends and family relations, so that’s simply not relevant. Tbh I don’t use “social media” with friends and family at all, I just use chats with them.

              how do you know you’re not missing something important or interesting?

              I mean this is just FOMO if you ask me. There always going to be something you’ll miss - it’s impossible to follow everything completely. I find it better to get a condensed view of the most important stuff, and then I can skip most of the rest.

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      Can it NOT be controlled by evil psychopaths? You are picking the wrong fight here. The algorithm is what they bought so they can twist it to their whim.

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      Uh, the algorithm is what stops random crap. Tailoring just the right balance of stuff that does interest you, might interest you and fits the supplier’s aims is why Tiktok is so popular.

      Given the content far outweighs your ability to view it, how would you imagine things would look without any algorithm?

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        21 hours ago

        “The algorithm” is what interjects things “you might like” or “people you might know”. It’s what tries to push an agenda.

        I ran Twitter and Facebook for the longest time in purely chronological order and it would literally only show you the people/places you follow. Nothing more, nothing less. It was the only way I made it useful to me and prevented me from missing things and finding info in time for the event/gathering/sale whatever. As soon as they dropped that option, my feeds got corrupted with people and places I didn’t care to know or follow. Shoving me towards causes and attempting to sway my opinions or enrage me against things it thought I should be enraged about. The Algorithm is one if the reasons countries become divided and set in bubbles.

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        The algorithm is basically a bad replacement for moderation according to you, isn’t it? And no one expects you to watch everything there