Archived version: https://archive.ph/4QzFt [https://archive.ph/4QzFt] After 30
years, Simon* is facing the prospect of moving. “I think we’ve been using their
products since we built the house,” he says. “We’ve gone through dial-up and
then eventually there was an ADSL connection.” The Canberra-based iiNet customer
has had the same email address since the 1990s. For millennials and younger, the
notion of getting your email address from the company you pay for broadband
might seem antiquated. Free online services such as Gmail, Hotmail, Outlook and
others not tied to the internet provider are the default. It is now not uncommon
for someone to set up their own email address in a domain of their choosing. But
in the nascent days of the internet before Google and Microsoft were the online
internet behemoths, getting your email address from your internet service
provider was the norm, and even attractive as a bundle package – and a way for
internet providers to lock you into their service. The cost for relatively small
– by comparison to Google – companies to offer the service has gone up in server
and administration costs without the economies of scale. Australia’s largest
internet provider – Telstra – ceased offering its Bigpond.com
[http://Bigpond.com] email addresses to new customers in 2016, shifting to using
Telstra-branded email. TPG – which owns brands that have historically offered
email including iiNet all the way back to OzEmail – informed customers in July
that it would migrate their email to a separate private service, the Messaging
Company, by the end of November. Users will keep their exisiting email addresses
on this service, and would get it free for the first year. After that, there
will be options of paying for a service, or an ad-based free service after that.
The amount to be charged from next year has not yet been decided. The
announcement was met with outrage among users of the long-running web forum
Whirlpool. “It’s a shitty move. My wife has never set up a Gmail or Yahoo and
only ever used her iiNet email address for her business as well as personal.
This screws us royally,” one user said. “Us oldies couldn’t start out using
Gmail etc because they weren’t in existence 25 years ago,” another said. “It’s a
nightmare trying to change logins at many places.” Simon too says he is not
happy about the sudden shift, describing the move as “shrinkflation” given the
change didn’t come with a reduction in his internet bill. He said he is still
considering his options. He says it is difficult as he viewed his email address
as part of his identification, and with not everyone on social media, it’s also
the only way some people might locate him. “That email address is used to
identify me in what I estimate to be probably 50 or 60 different locations,” he
says. “I’ve sold a car on Carsales.com [http://Carsales.com], I have a Gumtree
account, Booking.com [http://Booking.com], Duolingo. I’ve got to go to all of
those and say I’ve changed my email address.” An RMIT associate professor in the
school of engineering, Mark Gregory, says he is having to help move his father
away from his iiNet email address. “There’s going to be an impact on quite a few
older people that took up some of those accounts with some of the companies that
were absorbed by TPG,” he says. “I’m still at the stage where I’m trying to
convince [my father] that he has to do it.” Gregory says the shift reflects the
changing business dynamics, and businesses looking to minimise costs. Even
Google appears to be feeling the pinch, messaging its customers in recent weeks
saying that accounts deemed inactive in the past two years could be deleted
beginning 1 December 2023. The other factor is the increasing security risk.
Legacy systems, particularly those managed under a variety of absorbed
companies, as with TPG, can over time become more at risk of a cybersecurity
attack or breach. External providers who offer this service either in place of,
or on behalf of the internet service provider are becoming seen as the more
secure option. Randall Cameron, the director of sales and marketing at AtMail,
the parent firm of the Messaging Company, says there’s been a good opt-in rate
for users wanting to keep their existing email addresses so far. “When the bar
tab that is TPG runs out, we’ve got to make sure people hang around. And if we
say it’s now 20 bucks a drink they’re going to say, ‘Well, thanks, I’ll go
somewhere else.’” The Australian Communications Consumer Action Network chief
executive, Andrew Williams, says that ultimately internet providers getting out
of the email game is a good thing because it means customers don’t feel locked
into one internet company. But it will take a while for people to get set up in
new accounts if they decide to switch. Gregory advises those who need to switch
to a new account to start preparing now. That means figuring out which services
you need to alert to switch to a new email address. “It’s not going to be as
straight forward as some people might think, because when you’re talking to the
older generation it becomes quite complex.” TPG won’t say how many customers
will be affected by the changeover, citing commercial confidentialities with the
new email provider. A spokesperson says the strategic decision was made to allow
TPG to focus on mobile and broadband services. “Migrating our hosted email
services to a specialist provider will ensure our customers have an updated and
modernised webmail experience with the tools they require for all their email
needs,” the spokesperson says. “We appreciate this change could be challenging
for some customers who have been with us a long time and thank them for their
understanding and cooperation during this transition.” There’s no sign Telstra
will follow and stop providing services to its legacy Bigpond customers. While
the company did not answer questions on how many still remained seven years
after it stopped offering new accounts, the chief executive, Vicki Brady, said
they were still very active. “We have a really engaged Bigpond email customer
base … which is why we made the decision to actually upgrade and make sure we
had the right features and functions to be able to support their needs. So it’s
absolutely important part of our broadband service for our customers.” With the
rise in data breaches, and the avalanche of spam and scams, the shift offers
people the opportunity of a clean email slate, according to Andrew Williams, of
the Australian Communications Consumer Action Network. “Your email accounts do
build up with a lot of redundant information over time,” he says. “So it’s a
good opportunity to have a clean start and just really look at what was really
important.” *Name changed
I treat social media as pure discussion platform to advance understanding or to know new stuff.
There had been something on my mind lately which I wanted to discuss as a way to improve the upvotes relevance to the quality of the post and the amount of discussion.
Let’s apply quality control on upvotes, so any post can get only 20 upvotes till it gets a specific amount of comments then the limit could be pumped up to 40 upvotes till it gets more comments, etc…
Why I am bringing this up, you might ask? The linked post by me is the peek proof of my point.
It’s pretty clear no one read the linked article and despite that, the post is the top post in the technology community. There is no comments discussing directly the story and from the face of it, There does not seem to be any indicator that any one benefited from this.
I skimmed over the story and shared it in the hopes to basically learn new stuff, get relevant recommendations or basically read some direct discussions.
In any way, I think my described system to handle upvotes would highly improve Lemmy, taking into consideration that numbers used are only for demonstration and the used numbers will need to be figured out separately.
Pushing people aware from the Fediverse over crippling posting standards does nothing whatsoever for the wider negative impacts of social media.