• FIash Mob #5678@beehaw.org
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    What makes all of this worse to me is that, as someone who voted Democrat, I did my part to make the ethnic cleansing possible. I am tacitly responsible in part for putting my own tiny stamp of approval on it.

    Republicans would have done exactly the same, because regardless of what they say, both of the ruling parties and our international representatives historically have voted in whatever way Israel wants them to, but it takes a special kind of asshole to continue doing so when the ethnic cleansing is being shamelessly broadcast 24 hours a day.

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      No, Republicans would have done worse. They would have likely encouraged Bibi to go hard instead of pushing the brakes on him to slow him down.

      I heard a recent argument by Chris Hedges that Biden should be punished for his aiding of the killing of civilians, by voting for Trump. While that has logical basis in that you should be punished for doing this, the punishment is very likely going result in even more dead people. And for me it means that, somewhat paradoxically, voting Democrat is still “the right thing” to do.

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          This is almost certainly not true. There are ways to push the breaks lightly, without cutting off funds. There are ways to press the gas too. If you don’t think lightly tapping the breaks is any different than not doing it, I’d have to disagree. In my opinion there’s likely a countable difference in body count. Not to mention that the other guys could easily increase the funding, which could cause a few of the other meat grinding dominoes to fall. I don’t see the Republican Blinken running around trying to negotiate some ceasefire.

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            Biden literally circumvented congress twice to give Israel more weapons, using an unusual method that is not standard practice. He did not have to do this. No matter what comes out of his mouth, his actions put the lie to it.

            I do agree the Republicans would probably be even worse, while simultaneously dropping the much needed Ukraine aid too. But Biden ain’t tapping any breaks.

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              The moment the US stops spending on military, keeping the production chains working, building the latest and baddest, and selling weapons all over the world… it will have to face countries wondering how much exactly is the USD worth.

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          Wouldn’t he have his election campaign coffers already full up at this stage?

          And after that it doesn’t matter anymore, he’s not going to run for president again whether he wins or loses.

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              I wonder if that’s not a miscalculation. To assume that people who are Jewish are automatically in favour of Netanyahu. Even in Israel itself his popularity has dropped a lot, I’ve seen big demonstrations in the news.

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              This is daft though considering that he needs Michigan and the Muslim voters in were one of the Democratic pillars in that state, and he has completely and possibly irrevocably alienated them.

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          That’s not the only way they can be compared to Ronald Reagan. I think at this point we’re pretty much guaranteed to have some dementia in office.

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      Yep Americans have a choice between the party that aggressively cheerleads and gloats while doing everything in their power to enable Israeli war crimes, and the party that “expresses concerns” and “calls for moderation” while doing everything in their power to enable Israeli war crimes.

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      well one way to look at it is: massive fraud…
      a con job…
      the reason they’re buying youtube ads and playing it for americans is to scam us… to get more weapons and money…

      but we should all write letters to Biden…