• Mikufan@ani.social
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      7 months ago

      I dislike China in general. No actually i have a burning hatred for China, or rather the Chinese government that is within every aspect of China.

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        7 months ago

        It is an authoritarian regime after all, do you think that these phones are being used to aid their goals ? or maybe simply buying them helps support that regime ?

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          7 months ago

          Buying supports their fascist regime (also those phones are likely made with forced labor from their holocaust knockoff) and there is very likely Spyware on the phone.

          Now someone might say its also on all other phones but from USA, but they don’t bother my freedom or try to take over the world like fucking cartoon villains also they are allies of my country.

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          7 months ago

          My curiosity lies with peeps like the above actually being to walk around their house and not find things Made in China.

          I know I’d be hard pressed, and then components in devices?

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            7 months ago

            Actually I’m very aware of that, i do however look Into not buying stuff made in China as much as possible. Of course i cant see inside products to see that it’s actually 0 China, but i mostly buy local stuff (made in EU) and there is mostly no china inside.

            There are however definitely things that you cant buy without china inside, mostly electronics, they basically all have at least some Chinese components inside. Sometimes Taiwan is labeled as China as well, so its pretty much impossible to avoid it in electronics.

            But avoiding it as much as possible is good enough for me.

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            7 months ago

            My personal philosophy is to not buy tech products designed and/or owned by Chinese companies. It is very difficult to avoid buying products manufactured in China, but very easy to avoid buying from Chinese companies. All you need to do is pay a bit extra. The problem I have with supporting Chinese tech companies is that they are all essentially owned by the CCP and any technological advances they make can and do directly contribute to the ongoing suppression of the freedom and human rights of minorities in the country. Personally I think it is worth spending a bit more on a non-Chinese product to avoid directly contributing to that problem.

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              7 months ago

              All you need to do is pay a bit extra.

              Like I said in another comment in here, I find it odd that we need/want to pay more for things that don’t actually cost that more but do because some companies can’t run the books right (ie: fat cats and excessive profits) and end up with massive corps having to submit a First Gazette Notice.

              I had no idea what that meant since I found out last night my company I work for here in the UK, has done just that :/

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                7 months ago

                Paying more for a product that better aligns with your interests, ethics or ideology.isn’t a strange concept.

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                  Being a consumer means I don’t attribute others ethics, nor ideology, when making a buying decision.

                  I buy things because I’m a consumer of goods that tries to save myself from having to spend more, to line others greedy pockets though.

                  If those are my ethics, call me a dirty consumer perhaps? But people getting paid minimum wages whilst people who do nothing other than tell their sales department to up their price “just because” it doesn’t come from a certain geography is like chopping your nose off to spite your face IMO.

                  edit: I found a perfect example of this. Berghaus fleece Vs a Amazon basics, or hell, even a Regatta fleece. Just the badge, and nothing else.

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                    7 months ago

                    It’s not an all or nothing situation. Like choosing to buy cheap clothing doesn’t mean you can’t practice ethical consumerism elsewhere. There is no contradiction there. Life is all about determining what values are important to you and attempting to uphold them to the best of your ability.

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              7 months ago

              at a very low price

              This is another thing that makes me curious.

              I live up North of the UK where prices are cheaper, wages are lower. Much much lower than the same costs etc down…south of the very same country.

              Things costing less than getting priced up for the sake of it, simply because of geography, is kinda baffling.