- cross-posted to:
- news@beehaw.org
- cross-posted to:
- news@beehaw.org
Israeli and foreign human rights groups have documented a long history of snipers firing on unarmed Palestinians, including children, in Gaza and the West Bank.
Palestinians in Gaza also report a terrifying new development in the latest Gaza war – armed drones able to hover over streets and pick off individuals. Called quadcopters, some of these drones are used as remote-control snipers that Palestinians say have been used to shoot civilians.
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Israeli snipers were targeting children before the war too
The whole event of 7th Oct, as horrendous as it was, is now completely and utterly overshadowed by these evil events in Gaza. The whole thing is deplorable on both sides. This is pure evil.
At this point I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it turned out Bibi staged the October attack as a false flag so he could justify genocide.
I highly doubt he staged it. But it has crossed my mind that he might have got wind of a Hamas planning something and just turned a blind eye so it could be used to fuel an invasion of the Gaza Strip.
Oh yeah it’s not like I think it’s likely, just that at it wouldn’t really surprise me
It’s publicly stated by Israeli military staff there were warnings of preparations for an attack that were not believed by top brass and the administration despite clear evidence.
There is a bunch of reporting on this in mainstream news sources if you look.
It is positioned that they never believed Hamas would have the capabilities to carry out what they were clearly planning
It’s almost as if Hamas planned it that way.
Basically every headline can be replaced with “Israel is now doing what it’s always been doing but much more frequently.”
I mean… Netanyahu has made it pretty clear that the goal is to kill them all.
And the IDF rank and file. And a whole lot of Israeli civilians.
Indeed. War gets people killed, indiscriminately. Only madmen too out of touch with reality refuse to consider peace.
Both sides of this conflict have some of the worst of humanity in positions where they get to decide over such things. And as a result the situation has become an absolute meat grinder of the innocent.
I don’t even pretend to know a way to sort it out. Except that not adding more blades to the grinder might be a good start.
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Removed, attacking the user isn’t allowed. Totally OK until the last 3 words.
Are you saying every person on the side being eradicated is a saint? Are you saying all “both sides” statements are inaccurate simply because one side has shown itself to be by far more monstrous?
Does their innocent dead now become unworthy of considering? People have died on both sides. There are innocent people on both sides. There are monstrous people on both sides.
Ignoring any of that because Gaza is being absolutely stomped by Israels more powerful position does a disservice to anyone trying figure out what is actually happening, and what a way to make it stop might look like.
Shit people in charge doesn’t excuse killing kids, but killing kids doesn’t make the shit people cease to exist, either.
The whole thing needs to stop. But let’s not kid ourselves with the idea that that ball in the long is entirely in Israel’s court. It simply isn’t that simple.
Is it step one? Yes. Does it have to be step one, because right now nothing Hamas can do or say will make it stop? Yes.
But is it the last step? Fuck no.
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Again, removed for civility. You make a salient point right up until you attack the other user.
I literally agree with every word you just wrote, “you fucking idiot”.
There’s also a bunch of shit that has to happen for a lasting piece after that, and you are helping no-one by ignoring that and flying off the handle at people who otherwise already side with you.
If you agree, then you don’t need to do this ridiculous moral equivocation bullshit. Worry about the morality of whoever remains when the people murdering civilians en masse have stopped. Going out of your way to point out how the unquestionable victims are “no angels” is what isn’t helping.
I’ll leave out the insult to your intelligence this time, since I guess I’m testing the mods patience.
And they all believe this. If you ever talk to one; they know its ‘wrong’ even if maybe they don’t totally understand the concept. They want to do it anyway. Its like a compulsion. A need. Ive genuinely talked to serial killers, about their killings, that seemed less pathological. Its really fucking disturbing.
The only people , human beings that were actual human beings that ive ever met with any connection to kapostan? The queer kids they threw away like garbage, who are determined to never go back, and fucking ashamed of being from fucking mordor.
Honestly I just don’t know what to think anymore when I see news headlines like this this, I just feel a whole range of emotions
How could you do that to another human, especially a kid
Edit: just to add, no war is normal
How could you do that to another human, especially a kid
Easy peasy, just take a page from the conservative playbook and don’t think of your “enemies” as human
Mmmm… that reminds of this story.
They’re not kids in the eyes of the extremist racists of Israel, they’re “human animals”.
Zionism is clearly a variant of Nazism as can be seen by how so many elements are similar, from the style of propaganda, the relentless use of the myth of being both strong and a victim and how they talk about themselves (“chosen people”) and those they target (“human animals”), to the extreme dehumanization of the etnicity they’re targetting in words and actions and the extreme violence of their actions towards any of them whilst even feeling pride about it (to the point of it being normal for IDF soldiers to post videos of them murdering Palestinian civilians).
Now consider that many who are in the IDF now grew up in a country ruled entirelly by Zionism and have know nothing else their whole lives but Zionist Propaganda about how they’re all victims and Palestinians are all “human animals” and it’s pretty understandable how many of them will gladly commit against palestinians - men, women or children, they don’t care - the kind of acts that those not indoctrinated since childhood in that violent form of Fascism see as barbarous violence.
It’s unbelievable. In fact I don’t believe it. Standard fare for the Guardian. Reporting “reports” as facts…
Well you don’t really kill 13.000+ children by accident
Going to leave this here because it is important people start seeing actual footage of these sniped children
NSFL: video
As sad as it is, this is completely normal in war, the US did this to thousands of children in the middle east.
“Most children killed and injured directly by U.S. forces and their allies were killed the same way as their parents: they died when bombs fell; when they were caught in ‘cross-fire’; shot in night raids; shot at check-points and run over by U.S. convoys who speed through the streets and roads. The roadside deaths are often not recorded unless the U.S. gives some compensation to the families.”
Thousands and thousands of children were killed.
This is the direct quote and a comparison to child casualties in the Ukrainian conflict:
“This is not a normal war. The war in Ukraine has killed 500 kids in two years and the war in Gaza has killed over 10,000 in less than five months. We have seen wars before but this is something that is a dark stain on our shared humanity.”
If there is a normalcy for this in war, this situation is worse than that
