Referencing: https://lemmy.world/post/17588348

I want to make a NAS with a 500GB boot drive and 2x16TB HDDs. Based on my previous post, btrfs is a good option. It also looks easy to get started. My plan for the NAS would be to purchase several 16TB drives, and only use 2 of them.

My first question is about different drives. Could I purchase two different brand drives and use them with btrfs? (I assume yes)

2nd question: how does the replacement process go? Like if drive A died, so I remove it, and put a brand new replacement in. What do I have to do with btrfs to get the raid 1 back going? Any links or guides would be amazing.

  • poVoq@slrpnk.netEnglish
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    2 months ago

    This is a good guide: https://wiki.tnonline.net/w/Btrfs/Replacing_a_disk

    Usually you want to replace drives before they fail (SMART monitoring will give you ample warning in most cases). The it is better to have an additional free SATA port to turn the failing raid temporarily into a three-way raid and use the btrfs built-in function to replace the disk in situ.

  • eco_game@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Could I purchase two different brand drives and use them with btrfs?

    I don’t quite remember the source for this, but I believe I read some time ago that it’s actually a good thing to have separate drives. The reasoning is, if you buy two identical drives (at the same time), the likelyhood of both drives failing around the same time is severely higher.

    This is then amplified by the fact that rebuilding a RAID puts a lot of strain on the non-dead drive, so if ie. drive 1 dies and drive 2 is about to die, the strain you put on drive 2 in order to rebuild your RAID onto drive 3 might kill drive 2 before you even finish rebuilding your RAID.

    Again, this is just from my memory, it might be worth doing some more research on.

    • WbrJr@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      2 months ago

      I have read the same, but also read it is not very true anymore, specially with dedicated server drives. I would not worried too much about it honestly

    • mal3oon@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      if you buy two identical drives (at the same time), the likelyhood of both drives failing around the same time is severely higher.

      I need sources, this sounds extremely unlikely. That’s basically 2 "independent” probabilities.

      • tobogganablaze@lemmus.orgEnglish
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        2 months ago

        The reasoning is that drives are produced and shipped in batches and if you order multiple at onces there is a higher chance you’ll get drives from the same batch. If that batch had some fault during production or it was damaged during shipping, all your drives might be affected.

        I don’t have a source, but it’s something multiple expirenced people have mentioned to me.

  • Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyzBEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:

    Fewer Letters More Letters
    NAS Network-Attached Storage
    RAID Redundant Array of Independent Disks for mass storage
    SATA Serial AT Attachment interface for mass storage
    SSD Solid State Drive mass storage
    ZFS Solaris/Linux filesystem focusing on data integrity

    5 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 9 acronyms.

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  • Possibly linux@lemmy.zipEnglish
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    2 months ago

    It is better to have more drives and less apares. However, btrfs is only stable in raid 1. With data that big I would go ZFS raidz2 as you can lose up to 2 drives.

    From a btrfs perspective it is pretty easy as you just can run btrfs replace with the path of the new drive. Btrfs also has the benefit of being native

    • saiarcot895@programming.dev
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      2 months ago

      BTRFS is stable for all RAID levels except for RAID 5 and 6 (because of the write hole). I’m using it with RAID 10.

  • floofloof@lemmy.caEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Is btrfs RAID stable yet? This article is three years old, so maybe things have improved, but it contains some pretty strong warnings about the dangers of btrfs RAID:

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/09/examining-btrfs-linuxs-perpetually-half-finished-filesystem/

    To summarize, the article argues that btrfs is great for single-disk usage but its RAID implementations are idiosyncratic and unreliable.

    (I use btrfs daily on several single-disk computers and it has been great, but I have never tried its RAID.)