• Haarukkateroitin@sopuli.xyz
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    1 year ago

    Laughs in frameset!

    Kids nowdays try hard to do with divs what was already possible with framesets.

    Also I feel bad every time I remember that was taken away from us!

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      What do you mean? I still write my sites in HTML 4.1 and frameset works fine in all the browsers I’ve tried. HTML 4.1 is still a standard, I can only recommend more people use it. HTML5 isn’t really a standard… it’s a “living document”… pff.

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      You’re allowed to <center> things and use `` without shame… or if you really do prefer it, you can still wrap that relative positioned <div> with auto margins in an absolute positioned parent <div> or whatever CSS bullshit makes stuff centered nowadays.

      One thing I always though was very backwards in CSS is the paradigme to make <div> into tables instead of the other way. Tables are an easy and simple way to layout things and if it could degrade into divs you’d have your responsive design making many related CSS standards unnecessary.</div></div></div><table></table></center>

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          1 year ago

          Oh no you wouldn’t…

          • knocks on door
          • It’s the Wild Web Sheriff!
          • What the… You’ll never catch me!
          • rumble
          • a vase breaks
          • silence
          • Okay, okay I was just kidding. Tables are bad. HTML5 is the future.
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            1 year ago

            “And so the Gods (also known as the W3C) spoke down to the Programmers and said: ‘You shall not use tables for non-tabular data.’ And so it was.”

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          1 year ago

          In the context of the modern web, I take that as a badge of honor. I’ve build pages using flexbox/grid and I’ve done so only for the sake of responsive layout, because of the way that tables can’t degrade to a bunch of boxes, but a bunch of boxes can by styled to look like a table. It is a convoluted way of doing table layout instead of just using a table.

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            A table has semantic meaning: it’s for presenting tabulated data, not for building layouts. That’s why they behave the way they do and require the format they require. Table layouts have always been a hack, it’s just that for awhile there weren’t better options.

            Again, you are insane if you’re still doing table layouts in 2023.