Yeah choose one,
- 12 websites written mostly by templates that are keyword-stuffed to sound like your question, and one might contain an answer in the 8th paragraph.
- A response from a bot that’s unreliable, but extremely specific to your query.
Too accurate… Finding information on the Internet is becoming a major pain in the ass these days. It doesn’t help that public tech support/help forums are being increasingly replaced by having to join hyper-specific Discord servers.
They aren’t designed to be right, they’re designed to look like they’re right
Nah I use DuckDuckGo
aka Bing
Not really (I wasn’t using Google directly anyway), I think it fills a slightly different niche than search engines.
It’s good as a fuzzy search for the sum of public knowledge, since it can understand quite complex queries and point you in the right direction, then you can go to regular search engines to find more specific stuff.
Bing was fun to exploit, but I don’t really see why it’s useful, it tends to always look up information which means it provides less of its own knowledge, I can do the searches myself better than an LM. Maybe it can provide more concise answers than all the SEO crap everywhere, but that can be avoided by searching on specific websites like reddit.
I wouldn’t personally use chatGPT ,or any language model for that matter, if factual information is the goal.
DDG has been my go-to recently, but mostly because I’m jaded with current year data harvesting and such. The internet feels like such a hassle these days .-.
@natebluehooves @dl007, to find what I search I use mostly these search engines with AI without BigBrother company spyware, is in these where AI is usefull because “de-hazzle” the internet with direct answers based on reliable resources, ChatGPT can’t do this, it has a knowledge base from 2021 and can’t give reliable and up-to-date answers because of this.
https://andisearch.com (the most private search engine ever)
https://www.perplexity.ai
https://you.com (free account to use it)These are great links. I don’t think they are stand in replacements for Google though.
Andisearch is nice but I found it a bit limiting, for example it would decide whether or not it would allow me to search for images.
Perplexity looks good but I haven’t had a proper play with it yet.
@Lobstronomosity, yes, Andisearch isn’t (yet) so good for images (it’s still in heavy developement), but normally it give very reliable answers, even accept commands and !Bangs (see help), similar to DDG, it has a reader mode and you can play YT videos in the search result. It’s from a two person startup, Google and tracking haters. Nice and usercentred people.
As with all new ventures with good intentions, I hope they succeed.
@Lobstronomosity, I think so. I’m in communication with them (Angie Hoover and Jed White) on Discord where they are quite active discussing progress, news, bugs, user feedback and suggestions that they take quite seriously. I think that small startups, as well as the one here at Mastodon present @Mojeek search, who want to offer a good alternative to these big corporations, deserve user support.
perplexity is the best for code, it still hallucinates but way less than chatgpt.
@Icarus, special for codes is Phind, a AI search engine for devs
None of the search engines is perfect, all of them have pros and flaws, because of this, if you need a deeper research it is inevitable to have several on hand.
@Icarus, there are currently more than 1.500 AI services and apps out there. If you are interest in this theme you can take a look here, it’s a complete list of all of them, daily updated.
Thanks, I’ll check it out
@Icarus, there are a lot of image AI, but my favorite is Skybox AI. Its to create 360º skyboxes for games or similar (text2image), not to create persons. But you can download the results in JPG in HD, great for stunning wallpapers or backgrounds. It’s (still) free (beta) without account and the among of images you want.
https://skybox.blockadelabs.com
Exmpl of one of my imagesyea I know about this, I’ve used it before
I switched to DuckDuckGo for privacy reasons.
Same. Switched for the privacy, stayed for the overall better results. Still hit Google for movie showtimes and some other functionality, but usually use DDG.
That said, DDG gets most of its results from Bing, so I’ll occasionally use Bing search and it’s good, too. The Bing chatbot can be good, but it regularly will type up a whole response that looks exactly like what I want, and the delete it and ask to change the subject. If it types anything that it thinks is sensitive it just shuts down.
I’ve never used ChatGPT and I’m not sure I ever will. Seems really sketchy to use it as a search engine, given it will just make shit up*.
*Yes I know it’s not actually capable of “making shit up” but the effect is the same
ChatGPT is not the same thing as Bing Chat. ChatGPT is more for processing/generating text and doesn’t have access to the internet, so it doesn’t know anything after September 2021. Still, though, it’s pretty useful for when accuracy is not that important like for improving/correcting your writing, generating summaries, brainstorming ideas, and even refactoring code sometimes
One good use I found was helping me recall words. I’ll describe how the word is used or give it a definition and it’ll usually give me the correct one
No, unfortunately it’s not as smart as MS wants people to believe, and ChatGPT only understand so much before it starts making things up lol
I have noticed that the quality of results on Google and DDG and others have been declining steadily over the last few years, and I think this is mostly a result of click farms generally getting better at gaming the system. Genuinely quality content is just being drowned out by crap.
ChatGPT doesn’t really address this. I also don’t see ChatGPT as a genuine replacement yet because 1) hallucination is still too big of a problem and 2) the value add of using natural language for queries doesn’t seem all that beneficial to me. Sorta like, how IF you are already used to a terminal, it will be faster or just as fast as a GUI for many things.
The only real value I have seen from ChatGPT, is for complex boilerplate generation that is very easy to verify. ChatGPT is fantastic for generating regex, for example. Or poems, if you prefer.
Natural language kind of stuff can be helpful if you don’t know the relvent terms for something though I haven’t had too much luck most of the time with ChatGPT on that kind of stuff. Worse is that ChatGPT is likely to lead to even more SEO spam :(
I’ve used ChatGPT for things like generating c linker scripts or writing a bochs configuration file. It would have taken me 30 minutes to research how to make a bochs config file but since I got ChatGPT to shit out something wrong but close to correct, I only had to fill in the incorrect stuff based on common sense and google a few things.
undefined> Or poems, if you prefer.
My favorite is to get
Explain why I should do XYZ but speak like Vin Diesel and explain it to me in terms of family and cars– that always gets some fantastic role-playing answers.
I enjoy playing with ChatGPT a lot, but I would not trust it to provide me accurate information, it’s really catastrophically bad at that. I mean, yes, sometimes it’s right! But a lot of the times it just picks words that sound plausible and work well together. For anything where I want to get some facts, I use Google.
Hasn’t impacted me, and hasn’t drawn me to Bing either. I recommend using DuckDuckGo. I have for years now and love them!
Love for DuckDuckGo yo!
Switched to DuckDuckGo but lately almost every search I make I find a reddit answer so I started searching on reddit directly
Haven’t been using Google for at least 6-7 years. Went first to DDG, then Qwant, then to SearX(NG) and ended up hosting my own (public) instance of the latter.
I set up a SearXNG instance a few days ago and I love it. I only wish I found out about it sooner.
I hadn’t used searxng before, so I just tried out a search on a couple different instances, and one instance returned absolutely nothing at all “sorry we didn’t find any results” and the other did return results, but kind of average quality results. I did the same search on my daily go to search engine DDG and got high quality helpful results. My query (what I’m hoping to begin tomorrow) “how to build raised garden boxes”. Looks like I’ll be sticking with ddg for now.
It doesn’t necessarily replace search engines, but I’ve been using chatgpt and sometimes Bing chat more and more. Like others have said, it does hallucinate all the time, and cannot be trusted to be 100% correct. I don’t see that as a problem though, as long as I have some way to verify what it says, assuming accuracy is important. The amount of time wasted by bad answers is easily made up with the time savings on correct, or correct-ish answers.
I’m a software engineer, so a common work pattern will be to ask chatgpt “write me code to do X, meeting constraints Y and Z”. As long as the subject isn’t too obscure, it’ll generally produce something I can work with. I then adapt that code sample to work in the actual context it is needed, and then debug it as if it were my own code. Sometimes it’ll make up function and things like that, but I’ll fix those and it doesn’t take any more time than if I had to go learn that function as I wrote my own implementation.
Another scenario is when I get an error I’m unfamiar with. Often times, I can ask chatgpt to explain the error, and sometimes even fix it for me. This usage more directly replaces a search engine. If the fix doesn’t work, then I’ll do it the old fashioned way.
I’m strongly looking forward to github copilot X to be even more integrated than chatgpt in this work flow.
I only use DDG to search for answers on the web.
At the moment, CGPT is mostly used for building me small scripts. i’m not a great programmer, but i do understand bash script most of the time. so often if i need something done i’ll just ask CGPT to build me something and i think it only made a mistake once.
