I bet you also have a 4 digit slashdot id!
(This is not an insult. Quite the opposite)
Yup. I’m Bo7a.
I bet you also have a 4 digit slashdot id!
(This is not an insult. Quite the opposite)
I probably should have noticed that. I’ll chalk it up to an early Sunday brain.
I’m asking this in honest curiosity. Do we have a domestic car industry anymore? Does a Can-Am Spyder count? I might just be tired this morning, but I can’t think of a single Canadian car manufacturer of any volume right now.
Possibly that is part of it. But I am not sitting here saying humanity is getting worse over time in general. Just that the value placed on some of the unwritten parts of the contract have lessened in value somewhat.
The concept of reading through a comment and understanding it before writing a vacuous reply must terrify you.
I didn’t say anything about morality declining or nothing meaning anything anymore.
I feel like I’m just repeating myself in every one of these replies.
People are no better now. Morality is definitely not worse now. Overall, humans are more accepting of each other now than they have been in most of human history.
My comment is only on the perceived value of a vow. And how that is tied to the perceived value of one’s word.
This isn’t generational, nor is it me saying the kids need to get better, because in fact I think the kids are doing very well all things considered.
However, these kids are also growing up inside a system that feels like it’s under collapse. Where the only true physical rewards in life come to those who easily break their word or do not consider a vow to be beyond all circumstance.
Just considering the demographics on this website, there’s a fairly decent chance you’re not older than me. Our experiences may differ.
But just by reading this, it’s pretty clear that we have a different definition of a vow. I’m not sure why you’re so up in arms about this.
I called you contrarian because you’re in here arguing a point I didn’t even make. I didn’t say that I would hold you to a vow nor that I would judge you if you broke your vow.
I said that over the last ~50 years of me watching people I have seen a general pattern of the lessening of the value of these intangibles.
That’s correct. People have always been people. In my short time on this dirty ball in space I have noticed that people I know, and people I work with, and people I interact with on the street, all put less and less value on intangible things like honor, respect, and your personal word being worth something as time goes on.
I’m in no way saying people were better in the past. I’m saying that the value assigned to these intangibles is currently worth less than it was in recent cultural memory.
I didn’t say anything about a divorce or murder. Maybe I was bad at getting my point across.
The point I’m attempting to make is that putting value on your word, and by association giving extra value to a vow over another type of promise, is a lesser respected or necessary part of being a human in the late stage capitalist society that we live in.
This can be evidenced by people saying that a vow can easily be broken if the circumstances change.
That is not what a vow means.
Unless you have made a conscious vow otherwise.
Love and respect are not like columns in a fucking spreadsheet.
A lot of people in the current culture we live in do not place any value on their word or honor. I don’t really blame people for this since the system we live in almost exclusively rewards exactly the opposite behavior.
But it does make it very hard to communicate with people when you don’t have the same vocabulary.
It seems like you and I believe a vow is something that you make and would hold yourself to regardless of circumstance. But the nature of our capitalistic society teaches us from very young age that if it will improve your standing, your finances, or your situation in some way, then it is okay to break your personal code.
With that rambling paragraph in mind, it’s not surprising when we find out that most folks don’t have a personal code and vows mean nothing more than a pinky swear.
Partakes in text-based medium. Refuses to read well written and polite comment that is four whole paragraphs. Proceeds to think they are the intelligent one in the conversation. Are you huffing glue right now?
Then I definitely misunderstood your intent. My Apologies.
My fury at the use of ‘based on their beliefs’ stands in general, but I apologize for ascribing that to your comment without first asking.
That voice there is a part of you that knows that murdering people solely on the basis of which religion
This is the part of your comment I was referring to. That user never said anything about their religion. They said something about waiting to have information about their actions.
Conflating those two is easy, and effective at making those who judge others by their actions seem like religious bigots.
Notice that they never said anything about the religion, but question the ACTIONS of that synagogue before expending emotional energy.
And they didn’t call for their deaths, they merely said that if they were one of the synagogues who are preaching hate then they won’t care about their suffering, just as those people don’t care about the suffering in gaza right now.
This shit is so common and so infuriating - “They laughed at his death because of his beliefs”
No, you are being disingenuous - “They laughed at his death because of his actions. he called for the death and suffering of many.” is not the same thing at all.
Let us know your URL if you could. I was thinking of doing it myself, but if you have the spoons, all the better.
Single data point as counterpoint…
My last three phones have been pixels. I skip every second generation because I tend to treat my phones well and they don’t need replacing every year.
I don’t think I would ever buy another phone. Add GOS on top of it and it’s pretty much perfect for my use cases.
I have been doing some uploading there for a few mths. My biggest gripe is that they support 60 second videos, but anything over 15 seconds (for me) never finishes uploading.
I have seen the repeats too though.