It’s the other way around. Which browser you use is what directly determines whether monopoly and private companies develop the standard you use.

No it is not, this is a myth. As you also can use free software on closed OS, which happens to be the standard. Keyword Microsoft and Windows. You also can choose to not support this, it is you and not the monopoly. If there is no alternative that is usable, people continue to use what they got. It is the underlying problem, Firefox is so bad and so unusable by default, so people switch or use something else. Nothing to do with Monopoly. The standards itself are created and dictated by monopolies, so it plays no role what you use if it anyway ends up that you must support such standards.

You could write a standard independently of those companies, but then if everyone chooses to use browser engines from companies that don’t follow it, what’s the point?

The point is that user generated or govt establish frameworks can b used as basis.Its useless if you build a browser surrounded by standards created by Microsoft, IBM etc alone.

If everyone uses a particular browser then whatever that browser implements becomes the standard. It’s all about what browser you use.

This is already the case, you can choose not to use FLoC. Nothing changes here.

If what you want is everyone using the same basis, then what you need is to get everyone to use the same browser engine (which is what is happening already).

Please learn the difference between Browser engine and web standards, nonsense you talk here. Your Browser engine can adopt, implement or reject standards. Irrelevant in dyding discussion anyway since you provide absolute no solutions yourself in the discussion here, like everyone else people feeding off my ideas, practical in every thread. That you cannot continue is clear, web gives a shit about Mozilla, clearly the case. Some people hold together by hopes and delusions do not represent the web. Never did.

The discussion here is not about Browser you use, as people use whatever works best for them, and not what implements xyz, this is clearly shown in practical every thread. So enforcing your ideas will not work for the mass, better way around is to create open frameworks, documents that are actually usable and directly easily reviewable because at the end of the day your Browser runs pretty much on Android and iOS and not a open system. There exist open alternatives but they are not well funded, future unclear and the web - the main user - does not use it, they trust big corpos, they rely on their eco-system. Like Mozilla relies on money from yahoo, google etc in the past. Corpos you shit-talk.

Nonsense video, underlying problem is monopolies and private companies who develop the standards, not what browser you use.

If the standards are fully open, transparent and not concerning then it would make no difference if you use chrome and firefox because everyone would use same basis.

Also chromium team is not purchased or owned by Google, most volunteers are normal people, developers or security researchers that code on it in their free time. You can fork, modify the source as you please but that does not change the argumentation about web standards and how build or control them.

It was made by a free speech company that supported neo-nazis and white supremacists. They also wanted to replace the coin system.

• https://micky.com.au/gab-parasites-fork-brave-browser-replace-bat-with-btc/
• https://discourse.mozilla.org/t/the-removal-of-the-dissenter-extention/38140/70
• https://old.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/ptaau2/what_happened_to_dissenter/
• https://www.customerservant.com/no-one-disputes-the-fact-that-gabs-founder-has-the-right-to-fork-brave-we-just-dont-think-nazis-add-value-to-anything-including-code-bases/
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gab_(social_network)
• https://old.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/bgmgi5/the_dissenter_browser_will_have/
• https://everipedia.org/wiki/lang_en/dissenter-web-browser

In April 2019, Dissenter was removed from the Firefox Add-ons website and the Chrome Web Store for violation of their policies that causes the creation of the Dissenter web browser.

Brave never threatened anyone.

I understand that you are upset, because annoying ads are always bad. However, I think if that is optional via opt-in it maybe, maybe can help smaller developers assuming the ads are well placed.

I use Brave + ads enabled and I do not mind a small mini popup. Sometimes I see some news because of that which I reshare, so it actually helps me. What I want to say is, that when ads are well placed and not annoying or malwaretised I see not much issue to place them in an app as long it is not privacy invasive, I think that is the real challenge here. Because ads have a history of malwaretising. Brave fights this by filtering ads trough their proxy, there is a review for every new ad provider. I see here the issue with a normal unfiltered app, imagine your 8 years old kid gets a XXX ad or clicks on malware stuff.

THAT is what I am worried about.

Why, even FOSS needs support. See OBS Studio, Wikipedia etc. Without supports good projects go to waste.

• Developers can decide to introduce it in their apps or not. I am sure not every QT developer will adopt this.
• People will be able to opt-in, opt-out. I am pretty sure they provide us with an option.
• Most people do not donate, so an additional income thing could help.
• The other option would be crypto.

We are not talking about MS who introduce ads in Explorer which need some ad-blocking, hosts or registry hacks. Linux is more transparent and there will be options to control this.

Do I like it, nope. But it is better than alternatives to shutdown project because lack of funding or struggling to expand because only few people are willingly to donate.

I find such accusations without anything behind pretty harsh.

EFF is not a transparent organization…

but what they are supposed to be is an activist organisation to fight for privacy, not some political analyst on a TV show…

Eff has some campaigns running and did so in the past. Campaign that people paid for and they were pretty transparent because they report about all won and lost battles. They have social media, you can ask and contact them over there too. Not sure what your definition of transparent is.

• You can find absolute no organization without what you call questionable entities in it, the world is not about how perfect things should be, it is about reality and we are in a democracy, it is always about finding the best compromises that fits for everyone and not anarchy. Adding people that previously worked in e.g. Facebook, just an example does not automatically mean they negatively influence your organization, you need simply insiders, opinions and experts from both ends. I for example cannot claim X and then when someone ask me if I used it, admit nope I never did. This is not how real world works, you need to get in touch, get those people onboard and test things on your own and not what other puppets telling you.
• If you like to smear campaign EFF and their mission feel free to open your own threat on this and then link it to them to give them a fair chance to respond. I do not like to shit-talk others behind their back. The things I express here are already expressed from myself on other platforms too, so I am no hypocrite. I also do not say everything some individuals or organizations do is what I always backup, but again we are in a democracy. If you want perfect things or a perfect world then the Internet is not for you.
• You linked articles are not really a problem for EFF because they support privacy, we can now talk about whenever the Apple thing is good or bad for privacy but at least they try to go new ways and support - what they think - is better than the current situation. I rather would take this on Apple and not on EFF. People simply just use iOS if you like it or not and Apple tried to address some concerns, sure it is not perfect but its a small process and made some people more aware that there are currently issues.

Can we go back to topic, I think the Cambridge thing is already over and Facebook had his worst year in 2021. I do not like hijacking threads like this. I also do not like to smear someones entire reputation based on one or two things some people did, this is not how things should be handled. Name someone without any flaws, that would be real news and a big bummer. If you dig for dirt you always find some, on every side.

I do not backup EFF on every move they do or did, it also was only an example on who you can support with eg donations.

Now tell me what campaigns you running as private person … oh whoops none… Full circle.

They created their Privacy Badger extension + spread their DnT philosophy, regardless if it is helpful or not.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/03/one-answer-facebook-problem-block-its-tracking-technologies

Talked a lot about the leak

• https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/11/after-facebook-leaks-here-what-should-come-next
• https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/03/why-we-didnt-make-fix-my-facebook-privacy-settings-tool
• https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/08/facebooks-attack-research-everyones-problem
• https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/12/data-privacy-scandals-and-public-policy-picking-speed-2018-year-review
• https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/04/deletefacebook-or-not-deletefacebook-not-question

Direct response

• https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/03/one-answer-facebook-problem-block-its-tracking-technologies
• https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/04/what-we-want-learn-zuckerbergs-congressional-testimonies-week

I think they responded a lot to Facebook, the entire scandal and started some campaigns to sue Zuck and co.

• Title is clickbait.
• People only upvote it because admin posted it, that is all.
• Web is not controlled by larger companies only, they might be the ones with most impact, true but they do not dictate what you should do. Face it, most people believe everything Microsoft, Google telling them no matter if it is right or wrong because they think big Corps have more credibility.
• We have dozens of articles like this already, why write another one … What have you done to make things better… Why not list organizations like EFF who fight for us or help them to get more attention.
• Saying things like - we cannot do much about it - without even trying to provide some solution is seriously the wrong way to motivate readers.
• Even domain name is based and redpilled.
• Echo chambering the same over and over again helps how … People will give up an feel helpless.

Here is what people could do

• Support small platforms like Lemmy, Fediverse in general.
• Support actual organization that fight for you, such as EFF.
• Instead of whining that web is miserable, I read this nonsense since 20+ years now, each year new clickbait … oh adblock destroys the web, oh Microsoft destroys the web, web is broken … Blah blah blah. Provide some serious solutions, because this is what will consume Brain power here. Some people actually did, created crypto and other systems that are not controlled by the big Corpos or the government.

My opinion on the submission and Tech + Web, not meant to offend but my little review on this.