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When you actually win an argument on the internet.
When you actually win an argument on the internet.
What was the saying? Don’t assume malice when it could be incompetence? Especially when malice requires a John Wick level of shadow organisation?
See what I mean? Much easier to just call you a grade-school dropout and call it a day.
I don’t tend to engage with people whose only rebuttal is to a strawman, because it’s not going to do a damn thing. Takes more effort to refute the bullshit people like that will fling than an argument with them on the internet is worth, so I usually just point and laugh.
That being said, allow me to give you a more accurate representation of my argument; because I’m feeling generous.
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There are five major wars America participated in that tend to be prevalent in my generation’s psyche. These, listed chronologically, are: the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, World War 2, the Vietnam War, and the War on Terror.
Of these, two of them dealt heavily with genocide. World War 2 because we were simultaneously avenging one and preventing its completion, and Vietnam because the overwhelming attitude of the US’ commanding officers in that war was, “Kill all Commies,” and the majority saw no difference between a Communist and your average Vietnamese person.
Therefore: in my generation’s psyche, our country is one and one in terms of genocides stopped and genocides attempted.
In addition, the United States is one of the main sponsors of Israel as a country, and is basically the entire reason it hasn’t been wiped out by all of its neighbors, who hate it and everyone in it. They all realise that to attack Israel would cause the US to retaliate and basically wipe them off the map. This gives the US a certain level of responsibility for what Israel has decided to do whilst under that protection, since it wouldn’t have happened otherwise.
Further: the UN’s call for a ceasefire in that conflict has been vetoed by the United States. So basically that makes the US responsible for allowing the bloodshed to continue.
Therefore: yeah, the United States is, in fact, responsible for Israel’s continuing genocide attempt by vetoing the call for ceasefire and not doing anything tangible to stop the bloodshed committed by a country it has protected from its inception to today.
Overall: we are one and one for genocide v not-genocide, and it’s not looking good.
This is a hilariously misleading summary of American history.
America has only been in 2 conflicts and is responsible for genocide carried out by a sovereign state
Fucking lmao
-Direct quote from nac82
Oh, hello strawman argument! How are you doing?
Yeah, our ancestors stopped genocide during World War 2. And then other ancestors tried to engage in genocide against Vietnam. And now we’re only just starting to attempt to convince Israel to not do genocide. So the record currently stands 1-1, with the current one being the tiebreaker.
You see, and then they go and do shit like that.
Why can’t the villains just be moustache-twirlingly evil and the heroes be radiantly pure, like in the old Saturday morning cartoons? It would make the works a whole lot easier.
Damn, you’d really think Israeli citizens such as Netanyahu and the rest of Israel’s government would hesitate to use Hitler and the Third Reich as a role model, but here we are.
Genocide, for one.
Oh, Israel leadership says they’re only going after Hamas, but they’ve also just been gunning down anyone in the streets who aren’t wearing their colours (demonstrated with a few Americans and Australians being shot), bombing hospitals, and opening up evacuation corridors only to bomb them when they get filled up. They’ve also cut off food and water and internet, so even the civilians who aren’t in the immediate line of fire are suffering and dying.
I dunno, sounds like genocide to me!
“As long as is deemed necessary,” roughly translates to, “As long as Palestinians exist as an ethnic group,”
Honestly, our descendants are going to look at this whole thing like we look at Germany v Poland back in 39. Which is real fucking tragic, considering who the hell was at the helm in 39.
I mean, at this point I’d say their people are in line, at least with their government’s intentions.
Putin, mate… you’ve lost several tons of military machinery to cardboard suicide drones. I think we can safely say that you and your military are a non-issue.
Ah, yep. My bad for speaking for all of us, mate. I’m in Perth, and let me tell ya, we’ve been having some scorchers. I’m sure if we swapped, we both be begging to swap back in a week.
Wish we had that problem down here in Australia. We’ve been having 30+ degree days for several straight weeks. A few of them have been a good 40+. (That’s 86+ and 104+ for my American readers)
And I work in the giant solar oven otherwise known as a warehouse.
It’s the kind of thing that happens when a space gets big - the original purpose and culture of that space is gradually diluted and overwritten by what’s popular until it’s been washed away completely and is no different than what it was trying to distinguish itself from.
Frankly, it’s a phenomenon that I think the world could do without, but I can’t do much about it until the next harvest blood moon, when my powers are at their peak.
Honestly, the guy was just playing the game corporations have been setting up and playing for decades.
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Nah, yeah, you’re right - war with China would be a very bad thing for everyone involved, but there need to be consequences for being an absolute dick to everyone, and China has a long history of provocation and other assorted dickery, even discounting this incident.
Nair, not hair.
Also, this is the most Reddit I have seen come from Lemmy, which simultaneously entertains and worries me.