Maybe I am just am ignorant American, but Joe is Johnson at all comparable to Trump in terms of overthrowing democracy? I don’t recall anyone storming Parliament or Boris claiming any elections were rigged.

Made the switch from Podcast Addict recently and I’m pretty happy. It’s much more stable (especially with casting) and I like the queue system, but I do wish I had a bit more flexibility in applying download/update rules to whole categories instead of only one show at a time.

I am not sure how to interpret “no more influencers” as anything but the primary upside.

Mostly that’s a joke, but to be clear I do acknowledge that the same model that supports ‘influencers’ which I don’t watch, also support creators that I do watch. On the other hand, most of the creators I care about already don’t rely on ads, but accept donations via Patreon or equivalent, so maybe it wouldn’t change anything after all!

They are way passed being able to do anything.

Reddit staff have no idea how their platform works or how their users actually interact with the site. It’s completely embarrassing and unprofessional to the point of straight up incompetence.

Might be?

Most restaurants in America as they exist now should not exist. We’re essentially all subsidizing low quality, frozen food.

I think that’s a gross mischaracterization. Are you a developer or have any experience with open source projects?

Borrowing, modifying and extending other people’s code is fundamental to modern software development and completely commonplace. He just moved too fast and forgot to provide proper credit, which this post clearly explains.

That is the claim from Reddit, but it doesn’t hold up to scrutiny because LLMs are not using the API to get content from sites like Reddit. They are scraping data from the entire Internet, much like Google does.

Even if it was using the API, however, it’s still a bullshit excuse because Reddit would be fully within their rights to enforce existing rate limits or other TOS violations. Nobody would have been complaining if Reddit revealed that the Apollo app or OpenAI were abusing the rules that were already in place and everyone agreed to. Actually, nobody would even be complaining if the pricing and timeline for the changes was anything close to reasonable!

Agreed. I was never on Digg, but was on reddit for several years before the Great Diaspora. I remember the epic web comics telling the story of how the Digg invasion happened. What some people forget to include in the retelling of those days is that there was not just one, isolated incident that led to Digg’s downfall.

Like all mass migrations in human history, there were multiple waves. The last was the biggest, but only because the previous waves had already gone out and created something new for the masses to move on to.

I think this will be similar. We’ll see people move back to Reddit in a couple of days, but in July the mobile apps shut down and another wave will likely be generated.

I see where you are coming from, but it’s really the only way to protest at the individual level. Reddit’s value is the users and mods and the content we create. Destroying that is the best way to not only devalue Reddit’s upcoming IPO, but to actually have a chance of getting the current admins to realize they are sowing their own downfall.

I look at this as a lesson for the wider Internet culture. We spent the last decade forgetting that it’s about decentralizing and niche communities, not walled gardens controlled by single individuals or companies. That let to some great things, perhaps, but it also means the system was less resilient to change.

I’m hoping that in a few years we will look back and realize that the Fediverse, in all of its many forms and motivations, helped restore a bit of what the original promise of the Internet and the web had. At the very least, I hope to one day see the 2015-2023 era as a low point.

It’s working, too. The Forbes article which I saw posted either here or on Kbin didn’t even push back on Huffman’s claim that traffic from LLMs was the reason for the price hike, and I haven’t seen any big publication use the audio or transcripts showing a slam-dunk case of slander (or libel, whichever one applies to text) against the Apollo developer.

But that would be contrary to Reddit’s actual goals, which is to monetize their user’s data as much as possible. They can’t do that if third party apps are providing a better experience, so they are trying to force everyone to use only the website and apps that are directly controlled by Reddit. So they can track our behavior and sell more ads.

If they want to keep our data, realistically nothing we can do will stop them.

I had the same mental debate when I deleted my Facebook account years ago and realized I just don’t have any power in this situation. I am deleting things mostly for my benefit; it’s symbolic, like throwing away the remaining pack of cigarettes. That act by itself does nothing, but it sure doesn’t hurt my chances of actually kicking the habit.

In this case, even if the data is still buried somewhere in Reddit’s servers, if enough people do the same it will destroy any “value” that Reddit has left as a company. Trying to undo all of that would be a massive, likely impractical undertaking that I’m comfortable betting simply won’t happen.

I assume this is “good” as in the protest is having the effect we want.

They are just lying. Blaming LLMs is just a convenient, topical target. If that was really a problem, why did they not react anytime in the last few years when thimgs like ChatGPT were actually gathering their initial data? It’s not like this tech popped up or of nowhere, it’s been around for awhile but just recently became a mainstream story due to the increased access.

Apollo, Sync, RIF and others have all announced that they are closing permanently. Some of the big subs have done the same.

I fully expect others to join. There were more subs that went dark by the end of yesterday than began the day!

Depends entirely on the subreddit, in my experience. Places like AskHistorians didn’t even exist when the great Digg exodus occurred. My favorite sub was /r/cfb which also benefited greatly from the mainstream popularity.

Not coincidental that both of these are relatively strongly moderated compared to many of the biggest/default subs.