Well there it is.
He’s either blocking them in the name of “user privacy” fighting the “good fight” or he’s refusing them because he’ll very likely be implemented, lawfully on the charges they want access over.
My point is, Telegram is done. It’s a rat trap at this point and anyone associated with it getting their info scraped - purposely.
That’s a pretty heft user base, there. GL.
Telegram, it’s “encryption” or lack thereof, whatever, is hiding behind it’s owner. And he’s got a what, $5 million dollar bond or something? The platform is being made an example of. And his kneck is on the chopping block.
If you think he won’t fold, you’re insane. The logs (yes, logs) will be handed over. Keys to encryption will be. Whatever it takes to gain 100% full access, will be given.
To think they won’t is purposeful, blatent, fanboyism. And to turn the conversation into a Telegram and Signal comparison is just… ugh.
Signal ain’t on trial here. Telegram isn’t even in the same area code as Signal in terms of security. But you already know that. Telegram is not, was not and never will be a secure, privacy centered messaging program.
And because it allowed some of its users to treat it like it is one, with nefarious intent, is why it’s going to burn in flames. And tbh, it should. People treated like it’s secure. When it was anything but. Reap it.
I’m well aware of what you’re getting at. I’m insulted you’d think I’m not. But at some point you have to look at the situation for what it is - in the moment.
Telegram has the very public, very purposeful eye of the government on it right now. That platform cannot hide behind it’s owner taking the high road. It will bend the knee or it will close it’s doors.
That’s where it is right now. That’s no choice at all for it’s users, obviously.
No argument here. I agree completely on that. It is stupid. Complete waste of hardware.
You know what, you’re absolutely right and I’m way off.
Idk why that didn’t click on my head. Nokia has been dead for ages.
Pretty neat. If for no other reason than “because I can”.
Who keeps a Moto phone for more than 2 or 3 years anyway? These are disposable devices because of the lack of software support. You buy one, and have it recycled in 2 years. Rinse and repeat.
Nobody should be buying Motorola phones for a long term device,obviously.
Isn’t there a bunch of heat over the owner (and by extension, the platform) from the government right now.
I don’t think I’d want to use a platform the government is so intent on getting a backdoor access to. Especially with the shit that “allegedly” is going on with Telegram.
Oh cry yourself a River. Ain’t nobody entertaing this victimhood pitty party your pushing here.
Don’t reply to me again, please.
It’s OK.
I don’t blame people for their mistakes. I only ask that they learn from them.
(think I heard that from a movie or something)
The meme and the title is insulting.
You could have just stated a post with something like:
I personally think the 3A is the best phone ever to this day, what’s yours? The replies would be in the 20s by now.
Instead, you used a decade old meme that DARES you to engage with the topic. Again, insulting.
This your post declaring you thinking the 3A is the GOAT.
The “change my mind” part of the meme is bait.
I’m perfectly happy watching you squirm.
Nah. Enjoy your fantasy. Let us know how it goes.
Edit: is this opinion based on the size of the phone?
I am not nieve enough to buy into this. The data will be harvested with or without consent. This is a nothing burger.
Oh please. As if Nokia in it’s current state for the past decade+ has offered anything in the way of a useful smartphone to the masses.
Someone was gonna aquire them. That was inevitable.
I fail to understand how that information is essential to the topic at hand. The device could be MAXED OUT on specs, nerds will always cry about software support. And 3 yrs isn’t enough to them.
Now yall can downvote all ya’d like. But you know I’m speaking the truth. There is no amount of hardware that will get American nerds to accept anything less that what Samsung or Google offer for software support.
I can prove this extremely easily. Anyone could.
You’re not getting Samsung or Google software support unless you buy Samsung or Google phone. You can just apply this to pretty much every Android phone that isn’t made by those two.
So basically every phone that isn’t made by Samsung or Google will never be considered to the majority of techies and phone nerds.
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Great discussion, BTW, man. I appreciate the back and forth. You were far more cival than me in this on a few things that is not lost on me.
Cheers.