Terrorism is not protected by international law.

Lol I am not a conservative, but yes, block if you are unable to defend a position.

You shpuld have no trouble finding a single positive word against the IDF then.

Defending the innocence of a right wing Islamic fundamentalist terrorist organization is absolutely bonkers.

So until Hamas confirms the claims, you are just going to not trust that they did this?

Oh, were you not insinuating that a terrorist organization could be capable of murdering hostages?

The French “terrorists” weren’t trying to provoke Germany into killing as many French as possible to win a propaganda in the US, for starters.

These are not even vaguely the same situations.

“Hamas could never do something like this. Kidnap and take hostages? Sure. But they would never cross this line. They are the good guys.”

Fuck off.

Well I am glad you see a distinction between Gandhi and Hamas. Some of you guys I don’t think are capable of making that distinction.

But no, nothing Israel has ever done justified Oct. 7th. Hamas did not do that to liberate the Palestinian people. They did it because Iran paid them to and they knew it would kill a lot of their own people.

Gandhi’s goal wasn’t to get as many Indians killed as he could. Imagine if Hamas actually took inspiration from Gandhi though.

I wasn’t sure you were. It seemed like you were trying to suggest that Oct. 7th was a legally protected action.

What specific actions done by Hamas are you attempting to claim are legally protected?

I’m sure it emotionally feels better for you to pretend I am down with genocide than it is to actually confront and respond to anything I said.

Kind of seems like fox News level intellectual cowardice on your part though.

The Palestinians elected Hamas, did they not?

International law does not protect terrorism against civilians.

Were you not aware of that?

No, the actions of Hamas were not inevitable. That is absolving them of moral culpability.

But thank you for proving my point that this is not a pro-Palestine movement, but rather an anti-Israeli movement.

So if the political goals of the Palestinian government are to kill as many Palestinians as possible, why are the anti-Israel protests not a joint protest of both Israel and Palestine?

Why is the role of Hamas minimized?

You may not know the answer or be willing to say it, but I certainly know the answer and am under no obligation to not say it.

1. Israel is in Gaza because of Hamas’ actions.
2. Palestinians are more oppressed by Israel than they were before Oct. 7. Hamas offering revenge has weakened Palestine, without even needing to mention Hamas themselves are oppressors of the Palestinian people as well.
3. Palestinians have never been further from a 2 state solution than they are now, directly due to Hamas’ actions.
4. You suddenly being aware of the struggle facing the Palestinian people because of Hamas hasn’t done anything to help the Palestinian people. It’s only radicalized you into supporting right wing theocratic terrorism committed against Jews. Unless you want to tell me you personally have taken concrete steps to helping Palestinian people ag the behest of Hamas. I would love to hear about it.

Hamas is the elected government of Gaza. GAZA AND west Bank are officially recognized as “the state of Palestine.”

We have to be factual here.

The term Palestinian mandate is in reference to carving out the region, not carving the people out of existence. The British also sent Christian zionists before they sent Jews. The Palestinian civil war which led to Israeli expansion also was after the British ceded the territory.

If you want to accuse others of acting in bad faith because they know the historical context better than you, that’s fine, but if you want to open the door to making this a discussion about bad faith, let’s go for it.

Let’s start with people like you on here, loudly proclaiming to be American leftists, who claim to support the land back movement in support of our indigenous people, while at the same time claiming that the one historical act of “landbacking” that happened is by its nature an act of genocide.

If the land back movement was to gain any ground, to be ideologically consistent, you would have to claim that native Americans were genociding white Americans and that they weren’t even located in the region before white Americans, which is what you just claimed about Jews.

So yes, if you are unable to confront this, please block.

The mandate was referred to as the Palestinian mandate, not the Israeli mandate.

That’s a pretty big thing to be factually wrong about here when claiming the British plotted a genocide from the very beginning.

Except complete destruction wasn’t a card on the table before Hamas.

Israel is also not the ones who suspended all future Palestinian elections.

Israel isn’t grooming Palestinian children i to working as Hamas terrorists by producing children’s cartoons blaming Jews for homosexuality, etc.

Israel can be wrong in their response, 100%. But we need to be clear: Hamas is only capable of getting Palestinians murdered. They serve no other purpose.