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Cake day: October 11th, 2023

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  • My apologies, my initial comment was heavy-handed because I was writing with the apparent “lacks reading comprehension” demographic in mind, and I wanted to be sure they’d understand my scorn.

    Now onto the “please just stop” portion of this: I think you’re lacking some critical background here. VOA, though obviously incredibly biased from charter to name to office carpet, has a great deal of journalistic integrity. You can be a propaganda outlet and have a commitment to truthful reporting. If you want an example of that look to NPR, another openly biased news outlet, albeit one with a liberal-leaning bias towards the internal American issues it reports on most of the time. Both are propaganda, both do very good work reporting on US news and interests. That you don’t know enough about VOA to be aware of this speaks to the notion that maybe your understanding of the subject is not nearly as comprehensive as you seem to think.


  • I imagine that, if you sat down and asked people “Is voice of america propaganda” you would get a whole bunch of people saying “is it? I didn’t realize!”. People are dumb about applying specific definitions, and propaganda is largely viewed as the stuff that comes out of leaflet bombs, or that gets played on loudspeakers in dingy german factories that Captain America is about to blow up. But, if you asked “Is VOA Biased” 97% of people will say “well yeah, duh, its called ‘Voice of America’”.

    I truly do not believe your premise that there’s huge swathes of people unaware that “Voice of America” is biased towards American interests. People are dumb, but they aren’t so dumb as to be unable to read the damn name.


  • A successful attempt, too. There’s videos of multiple missiles making it through, though fortunately they seem mostly to have landed in large outdoor spaces.

    I don’t know if we know if the missiles were proper guided missiles, or just dumb MLRS-style unguided rockets. I’d imagine it’s both, but that’s the important factor in if Iran was just flexing their capability while minimizing damage, or if this was a serious attack.















  • Ah hell, you make one deeply drunken joke and suddenly you’re at -25…

    FWIW, the US does have a whole host of laws and various treaty clauses that dictate US citzens cant be held to account by a foreign power without either US government consent or consent of the party. Our extradition and criminal parity treaties mean that, in criminal cases, we might let a citizen be tried outside of the US, but calling a US citizen is really really difficult to pull off. Thats what I was referring to when I said “we fought a war”. The UK government cannot compel him to testify, by hundred-year-old-treaty, without US consent.

    But calling a US citizen to testify in front of a foreign legislative power is 100%, by both treaty and hegemony, entirely consensual on the part of the called party. Musk can just say no, and there’s nothing that can be done without getting the buy-off from the state dpt, which… we’re an oligopoly, we’re not going to hand over a billionare.

    HOWEVER the UK is entirely able to hold his business interests and investments ransom, which would be highly effective. If parliment is serious about this they’ll do that, but since I have no more faith in the UK government than my own (okay a little more, the US is in a bad place, the tories would honestly be a step up in most states) I absolutely do not expect them to go after musk in a way that even slightly might work. Which I would love to be proven wrong about, please, some government hold this asshole to account.