They are trying a genocide, looking like the villain while doing it kind of comes with the territory.

* She. It was the previous one, not the one that has actually laid the charges.

If you read the articles on this, the timeline makes sense. No one has to be “psychic”.

• In 2015 Palestine applied to join the ICC.

• Mossad’s harassment of the ICC’s chief prosecutor seems to have begun straight after that.

• Israel was already breaching international law with the settlements and flouting of the Geneva Conventions, and had been accused of war crimes in e.g. 2014.

If an entity is repeatedly accused of committing crimes it’s not really some crazy conspiracy if prosecutors start taking an interest in their activities. And the more they escalate their criminal activity the more likely it is that an investigation and eventual warrant will follow.

I feel the same way. He’s not my friend and he’s not a cute kid or something. He’s a genocidal war criminal.

It is pretty bad. The part where the Mossad guy “ambushed” the judge in a hotel room is blatant intimidation.

Definitely. The US isn’t likely to like either side given one of them is tight with Iran and the other one has dealings with Russian mercenaries.

@victorz - The “fast”/ big obvious ones are Darfur and Gaza, but there’s also probably Oromia, slow genocide in West Papua, Western Sahara, Xinjiang, and I think Nagorny-Karabakh and Tigray could start up again at some point. There is obviously a genocidal component to the Tatmadaw’s activities in Myanmar but right now they seem to be getting their asses kicked by the alliance which includes ethnic minority armies.

Then there are the more obscure genocides that are mostly only mentioned outside western and english-language news media, for example the ongoing slow genocide of the Baloch people in the Balochistan region.

Not all armed conflicts are genocides.

Is it naive of me to think American news must have at least reported on the international intervention into the 2004-2005 genocide?

And the separation of Sudan into two countries in 2011? Those were both pretty big; I thought that would be why the person above was calling this an old conflict.

the OG

Not even close.

No one here has been hearing about it in the news for hundreds of years tho (unless some of you are undead/vampires).

Arguably the roots of the Sudan conflict go back to the 1300s.

But in both cases the modern nation-state conflicts kicked off after the colonization of the 19th centuries, and in both cases most of us have been aware of it for decades.

Ikr! Pretty sure its a reference to the Spanish Inquisition’s expulsion of Jewish people in the 1490s.

In other words it’s not just super random whataboutism, it’s also a dogwhistle to the “chosen people versus antisemitic rest of the world” narrative that Netanyahu et al use to drum up support from their base.

in a major blow to the American-led effort to create a maritime corridor for humanitarian supplies into the war-torn enclave

in a major blow to the American-led effort to create a ridiculous PR exercise to smokescreen their complicity in the starvation of the genocide-torn occupied territory.

Fixed it for them.

Thanks for your comment. Fwiw I get most of my information from credible NGOs, and even if UNRWA was magically 100% terrorists (implausible. I’ve met an Israeli woman who worked as a humanitarian in Gaza and I think she had a pretty good idea of that space) I wouldn’t feel any differently about the Gaza Genocide. Nothing excuses it.

Similarly, preventing civilians losing their lives will always take precedence over preventing civilians losing their jobs.

I’m from a former colony myself, and history has taught that the only ways Israel can avoid being attacked by the people it has dispossessed would be if it either:

• stops colonizing/settling/occupying/blockading and makes reparations or

• genocides and displaces the population to a tiny fraction.

It’s disappointing that in this day and age most Israeli citizens prefer either option 2 or else the status quo of ongoing occupation and violence, but it’s not that unusual.

Personally, I think Israel is highly unlikely to turn back from genocide now. The only hope is for international intervention.

It does seem to be. The juxtaposition of Russia invading Ukraine and Israel invading Gaza is pretty stark.

Doesn’t really explain it, I mean the underlying Palestine/Israel thing has been going on for decades too.

The current Sudanese Civil War has only been going on for 6 months longer than the current Israel vs Gaza hostilities.

Because neither side is America’s aIly of course.

I went on tiktok yesterday and noticed a bunch of Gen Z mentioning Sudan and DRC as well as the Gaza Genocide. So that was better than usual.

Back when they told them to go to that evacuation zone many predicted this is what would happen.

It must be so terrifying to keep being told to move to places and then being attacked when you get to them.

I agree with you, I just mean it’s hard for us to enforce it when we are being blocked by powers like the US etc.

I’m comfortable with my level of engagement thanks.

You seem to have used personal insults on half the people in the thread at this point, and you keep complaining about Lemmy.

I get that you’re frustrated that we’re not talking about whatever it is you want to talk about, but that’s life sometimes.