Blegh, of course that’s becoming the case. Confirms my choice to keep my '97 up and running as long as I can and bike everywhere possible.

You’re talking systemic change.

Yes.

If your goal is to hurt the business

Yes.

As far as I’m concerned, fast food, as well as larger corporations outside the food industry, have been hurting the average human being, and nature as a whole, for far too long. We’ve tried the accountability route and things have only gotten worse (pointing fingers at tariffs/inflation/shrinkflation/taxes/stock market/rich piggies stuff).

So in that context, lawsuits won’t do shit but placate the people it hurts long enough for them to keep sodomizing us and get away with it.

Arr, matey

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I’ll add Factorio to the list of games that deserve the $80 tag. $40 for base, $40 for Space Age expansion. Or don’t get Space Age and go with the mod that spawned Space Age (although not exactly the same).

I get it’s a bit of a niche genre, though. The factory thing the way Factorio does it isn’t for everybody.

What’s frustrating is people thinking they can fight a corrupt system from within the corrupt system, playing by their rules. The story of Winston Smith in 1984 is a lesson, not something to model your life after.

Suing someone, if you have the capitol to do so and actually win, doesn’t do a whole lot in the long run and it isn’t accessible to a lot of people because of the cost. It’s part of the operating costs for large corporations these days.

Let’s take Whataburger. Their best year they pulled in $6.7m profit. If you had 7 suits @ $1m payout all occur at the same time and win, then great, you might do something. However, neither of the two cases this guy is suing for have come to a conclusion yet, and it’s just one person. They also still have an income source from patrons that are still buying their product, so they will make it back and they know that.

If you instead spread the word and cut off their income source by raising awareness of it, it becomes much more effective and there’s no BS legal crap going on that can be twisted by lawyers. Just pure loss of profits.

ETA: I repeated my comment precisely because I expected you didn’t dig through all the comments. For those that do read through them all, they know I understand that I’m repeating myself because of all the spawned threads in here.

Better, even. Much easier to use the porcelain throne this way.

Maybe not directly, but it does have an impact. According to this, it’s got to do with accidental gluten ingestion and a lack of intestinal healing.

https://celiac.org/study-shows-slightly-increased-mortality-in-celiac-disease/

From the end of the article, emphasis mine:

“The great majority of people with celiac disease live long, healthy lives. And yet, the fact that we’re still seeing the signal, even in the most modern era, says that despite the improvement of awareness, increased diagnosis rates and easier access to gluten-free options, there is still a measurable impact on the ultimate outcome, which is mortality in people with celiac disease.”

Maybe there’s a co-morbidity thing going on, but either way my point is he knows there’s a real problem because he’s been hospitalized as a result of eating wheat, so he takes no more chances.

why are people ingesting food and drink they can’t verify won’t fuck them up?

Indeed. Self-reliance is the key here. Don’t expect a money-making business to have your best interests in mind, especially the big players with billions of customers worldwide.

To reference Emerson a 2nd time: The first wealth is health. You alone are responsible for that.

Without some serious ECM re-programming from someone that knows what they’re doing (which is very unlikely), probably not. Pretty sure they’re referencing OBDII protocol (or whatever the current standard is) in this context.

Having said that, it’s probably only an issue when taking to the dealer for anything. Your everyday, local mechanic likely only cares about the diagnostic codes that might be active and point to the issue at hand.

Not an onion, but definitely a dick tater

You get it 😂

That being said, I wouldn’t step into a burger place with an onion allergy. Especially since the onion allergene can be airborne. I have a soy allergy and you won’t see me in an Asian restaurant.

At least you still understood the point. I was just using “deathly allergic” as fuel for the argument.

Y’all taking these showerthoughts way too seriously. It’s just a dumb number coincidence that happens to really only work with a particular age group at the current point in time. In a few years it’ll be different, and it isn’t true for every single data point, but this isn’t a philosophical revelation community.

The joke is I said 60s and 70s twice and it mostly works out.

And yea, I’m not relating it to your birth year, but the formative years. My mother is in her mid 60s, born near the end of the '50s, but the childhood years she remembers fondly are all in the '60s.

What I’m saying is stop supporting companies that don’t care; stop giving them money and don’t eat there again if they can’t follow your request. I’ll say it a 3rd time, “Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.”

That’s not callous indifference, that’s 1) voting with your wallet and 2) trying to promote a little self-reliance.

Indeed. I said it in another comment just now, but what I’m getting at is more: “Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me”

Oh no! Fuck!

(also /s)

That’s fine. I’m not necessarily saying it’s a you problem, it’s definitely on the company. Think, “fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me” kinda vibe.

I just distrust both the corporations that are for-profit, and the government we would have to rely on to regulate and help us make them accountable. I just don’t see companies changing for the good of the proles under the current administration, no matter how much we make a stink about it.

I guess my subconscious point is more along the lines of “vote with your wallet” and stop supporting companies that don’t make this kind of thing a priority. There are certainly some fast food companies that actually do care, but I couldn’t name one at the moment.

From sidebar, emphasis mine:

A “Showerthought” is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you’re doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming.

It’s a nice ideal, but historically the companies don’t think like that and in most cases the workers don’t get paid enough to be that passionate. 4/5-star restaurants? Sure. Not fast food, though.

Also consider the sheer amount of food orders a fast food place gets in a day, especially with things like DoorDash on top of in-person and drive-thru.