Idk boss, people weren’t too happy the last time we tried that.

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A distro used by Walmart because they were too cheap to pay for windows.

Yeah, I know the definition. I knew someone would quote it verbatim, someone always does. I quoted it because it’s not the word I would use. I like scheduled or versioned releases better but someone always disagrees with me. As far as I’ve seen it’s a major/minor version release cycle anyway.

That’s how I feel about arch, it’s not “stable” but the few issues I’ve had they typically have it fixed with an update within hours.

I do have to clarify when I switched to arch from windows my entire computer was brand new and practically no other distro booted or if it installed it dumped me to a black screen.

After running my server on archlinux with the stable kernel for 7 years I did install Debian on my new server. Zfs just required an older lts kernel than I could get on arch without a ton of hassle. I didn’t need it on my Mac mini with an external hard drive plugged in. From my experience it’s not very different to maintain compared to arch but it’s nice having built in automation instead of writing my own.

Man it’s weird using a system of what I can guess is a bunch of bash scripts on Debian to set things up compared to just using the tools built into and written for systemd.

Man Nvidia users are going to be stoked when the get explicit sync in they’re desktop environments in two years. 😂 They’re have been so many small improvements in the Nvidia drivers up until that point I hope they actually update Nvidia drivers on Debian. I understand some of those improvements are not going to work because of the kernel version and the desktop versions.

Why don’t you open an feature request on their git if you have an issue with volunteer work.

It’s funny thinking this guy uses a distro package manager potentially with unofficial patches applied to the package.

It’s always better to go that route. I also understand having hardware requirements and not being able to find a version of those models with Linux installed.

I like what system 76 is doing but I don’t think they really have competition in the US market right now. If you don’t mind a clevo and you live in the US I’d recommend them.

Don’t take it personally, it’s just a direction I haven’t seen many researchers/pen testers use. I’ve seen most run it on a virtual machine or a second computer and modify Ubuntu/Debian to better suit their needs and a primary computer/os for business transactions etc.

I can’t speak for hackers but from anecdotal evidence it seems like they can do their work on most systems but hacking hardware is just easier on Linux in general.

That’s neat! I think having the ability to charge outside of your apartment/work would be a huge help for people interested. I still think public transportation, bike paths, and walking paths done right is better but cars that polute less is a good step towards the right direction.

It’s personal preference but I still think hybrids and plugin hybrids are better for most people, at least until electric cars improve.

You mean that distro people use to pretend to be a hacker/security researcher. It’s just hardened Debian with a few tools installed. I’ve set something like that up in an afternoon tbh.

That good and all for your saints and what not but how about us sinners.

Some manufacturers allow you to get a refund for pre installed windows if you feel like sitting on the phone for hours. Something about a lawsuit involving Microsoft and anticompetitive contracts with the manufacturer not allowing the distribution of other operating systems.

I’ve seen a story about someone who got a refund for their dell laptop but it was slow, and the support staff was rude about it during the process. They stated things like the Microsoft software is free and why would you want to remove windows anyway, passing him from department to department. It’s often $60-$80 depending on the version of windows etc.

Edit: I should clarify it might only be a US thing, I’ve heard people in France having some luck.

I don’t know why you want me to explain you and your situation. I really don’t see why it would be the same as everyone elses. I’m pulling from stories, other people’s experiences, studies, real world cases, the research I did when I was interested, what mechanics are saying, and so on.

Maybe it’s different where you live but I come from the Midwest and many of the places I’ve been, what family members, neighbors, and friends think think are the same story. I really was hoping for actual substance in this conversation but seeing as it’s becoming cyclical I’m going to move onto more important things and I hope you do too.

I did have one case where someone enjoyed their Tesla, he was a retired firefighter that barely drove and he liked the way it rode. He didn’t know much about it though when I talked to him.

Because you thought the benefits out way the downsides. The idea of a bad product is subjective and in my opinion the alternatives are just better for the vast majority of people for now.

It’s will take standardization of parts and the ability for owners and mechanics to work on it, ability for third parties to produce parts, a track record that proves their claimed reliability and longevity, a more competitive market, better battery tech, more infrastructure for charging, more reliable charging and better range during the winter, etc. all that before it’s suitable for more individuals in my opinion.

I still hear plenty of stories involving people trading their EVs in for a gas powerd car either before or after their lease runs up. And I’ve seen actual people in my life considering an EV and getting a hybrid because of this or that. There are just so many reasons it’s impractical for people. It doesn’t make them bad and your not wrong for owning one. They just fit your use case better than most.

You don’t have to justify your purchase to me, just enjoy it. I never criticized anyone for owning a car.

I’m glad you’re having a good experience with your car, I just find there’s a lot of compromise and issues that would make it difficult or near impossible for most people to own one.

Something like plugin hybrids and regular hybrids would just be a better fit for 95% of people and public transportation would solve a lot more problems in the long run. It would definitely solve the ballooning cost of infrastructure maintenance and ever growing traffic as well as being better for small businesses.

You live in the city? I’m just curious, I’ve noticed cities typically move much faster than small towns if at all. I think it’s really cool you have that kind of luxury to be honest.

I live in a small town that tries to be modern but it often results in something like free wifi city wide that doesn’t really work or a walking path that goes from an Indian park to the opposite side of town for some reason. The one charging station was one of those things that didn’t work out but it was neat that they tried.

They are trying to lay optical fiber and trying to convince people to sign up, its super expensive compared to privately owned ISP’s but better than coax I guess.

I mean I live in America, my perspective will be American. I’d argue Americans are typically really into cars and the freedom of the open road. I mean we pretty much made electric cars popular so I don’t get your point.

I don’t know the state of Estonia but I do pay attention to the rest of the world. Most European countries that embrace and properly build out public transportation have happier citizens, livelier public spaces, and healthier business overall.

We can be civil, no need to be combative for no reason. If you like electric cars that’s fine, I like electric cars too but we don’t all live in California.

Most people live in apartments here and the only charger available was closed down because maintenance and upkeep was too much for the community center that installed it.

It pretty much boils down to living in a small town where there are no chargers and if you’re renting especially there is typically no place to plug in. Also issues with not being able to make road trips that don’t have chargers along the way, reduced range in cold weather, and if you need to tow it’s pretty pointless in an EV.