• SirQuack@feddit.nl
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      22 days ago

      She was unable to walk-drunk, he got her home.
      This guy wants to be a gynaecologist for fucks sake.

        • Bloomcole@lemm.ee
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          22 days ago

          Really?
          You don’t see a problem with this guy being alone in a room with a woman in a vulnerable position having her genitals touched?

          • jsomae@lemmy.ml
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            22 days ago

            If there’s a problem with him being a doctor, he shouldn’t be a doctor. The idea that vaginas are somehow especially vulnerable is mysticism.

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        22 days ago

        Yalls have a guy convicted of rape facing zero consequences, and you think saying his name is a shit practice?

        • Bloomcole@lemm.ee
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          22 days ago

          1 there is going to be a new trial bcs they appealed.
          2 We have standards and keep away from mob justice, public shaming, the death penalty and indentured servitude slavery.
          Your uncivilised, appauling country is no reference for civilised counties, on the contrary.

    • Bloomcole@lemm.ee
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      22 days ago

      I think you have enough pedos in your own country to worry about a thing from 30 years ago

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          22 days ago

          Not yelling, that’s he imagination in your weard head.
          Jusqt saying a Germ definitely shouldn’t be obsessed with something totally unrelated to this case.
          Especially knowing how horrible you all are.

  • DV8@lemmy.world
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    24 days ago

    Oh wow, something from Belgium showed up here. Obviously most reactions are the same here. But I would urge everyone to read more details about this. As there much more uncomfortable nuance here. One of those being that the dude is also in agreement he did something wrong. He also gave a relatively accurate description of the events of that evening that got proven with phone records and CCTV at different locations. Making his account of what happened at the least somewhat reliable.

    Obviously the woman could not consent because she was drunk as fuck. And she’s allowed to get drunk as fuck without being taken advantage off. CCTV showed them kissing at the bar they met. Phone records show he tried to call her friend she was supposed to go home with. CCTV shows them going to that friend’s dorm and not getting in and waiting there for half an hour. Then they walk back to his place while kissing on the way there. The morning after his messages to her indicate he wants to continue seeing her. (https://m.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20250402_95297572?journeybuilder=nopaywall but it’s in Dutch)

    Again, she could not consent, and he as the least drunk of both of them bears the responsibility of this. I do think he should have had some form of punishment above of what he got and for the woman’s feeling of safety a restraining order like she asked. And something that would have made mandatory counselling and follow-up possible. Not to mention that although justice in Belgium isn’t supposed to be revenge, it should also cause some sort of satisfaction for the victim.

    This situation just shows that the definition of rape over the decades has become more complex and nuanced, but unfortunately the tools to deal with this have not. This dude definitely did something wrong, but he’s not just a vicious predator.

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        23 days ago

        What does that matter if he was drunk to?

        Apparently not too drunk to undress her, and himself, then insert himself.

        This is rape.

        • CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml
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          22 days ago

          ??? She did consent, but while completely drunk. The argument being made is that she can’t consent while drunk, but he also consented while drunk. Did she rape him?

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    23 days ago

    JFC, I was afraid this was in the US. I’m not pleased to realize there are other places just as fucked up. Though in the US the excuse for letting him off would have to be that he was rich, not brilliant.

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        22 days ago

        Yes, she made contact with him, he called her GF’s who didn’t answer bcs it was late and finally went home with him.
        Bcs she was too drunk it is considered rape.
        This article is doesn’t accurately tell the events.
        But I agree he wouldn’t be let off if he wasn’t a privileged student.