The Ukrainian Security Service (SBU) reported that the June 1 “Spider Web” drone operation caused approximately $7 billion in damages and disabled 34% of cruise missile bombers in key Russian airbases.
The agency confirmed that more details about the attack will be revealed later.
“And you thought Ukraine was easy? Ukraine is exceptional. Ukraine is unique. All the steamrollers of history have rolled over it. It has withstood every kind of trial. It is tempered by the highest degree. In today’s world, its value is beyond measure,” the SBU wrote, quoting Ukrainian poet Lina Kostenko.
They also vowed to continue to drive Russian forces out of Ukrainian territory.
And what about US aggression towards parts of the EU like Greenland? You sure you want to decrease military spending against an increasingly facist super power right on your doorstep that has already openly stated to be very much interested in forcefully attaining your overseas territory? I don’t think so. Pacifism, unfortunately, is dead in this new age of multilaterlism and worldwide resurging authoritarianism.
The US has more than a thousand military facilities all over europe, if they are your concern the best way to defend against them is indeed cuts.
Don’t say nonsense please, if you are concerned with authoritarianism you want to cut the military budget to 0 so that no authoritarian ruler can use it.
You keep repeating the same talking points. That doesn’t make them any more true. How boring of you.
Great, let’s spend the budget in weapons right before the far right authoritarians reach all governments in Europe! Can’t see that going wrong! After all, Europe has never done anything bad militarily!
What would change without having the weapons? Nothing, other than the EU being a soft target for rivaling power blocks, inviting more war into Europe. Look at poor Ukraine. Putler thought them weak and attacked. Same power dynamics since the dawn of man.
You should also keep in mind that the EU is a supra-national federalist construct. So a sudden and all-encompassing power grab of the executive branch by the authoritarians - like the one in the US - simply isn’t possible due to all participating nations still being sovereign and having their own military.
You are replying in a thread about 34% of Russian strategic Russian bombers being wiped by a “poor” ukraine drone attack.
Same power dynamics since the dawn of man, rulers use fear to seize power.
On one end there’s rational fear of irrational authoritarian regimes, and on the other fearmongering on the basis of lies. If you cannot discern which regime uses which rhetoric, then all further discussion seems moot to me.
Since the dawn of man no regime is good.
It still supports the ongoing genocide in Gaza and supported the invasion of Iraq, the bombing of Yugoslavia, the destruction of Libya, Afghanistan, colonialism in Africa… Seriously, tell me three military interventions done by European countries in the past century that were arguably moral.
The whataboutisms must flow!
I’m addressing the military expenditure of the EU, how is showing historical evidence of military expenditure of the EU whataboutism? It’s literally the topic we’re talking about. You just don’t want to think about this topic because you’re obviously right in your point of view, so you’re using a thought-terminating line to shut down your brain
No. We have been talking about the present and future threats to the EU while you choose to mostly indulge in past actions that weren’t even conducted by justification of Europe’s immediate security. Geopolitical concerns have fundamentally changed since then and you are now comparing rotten apples to budding oranges, calling them one and the same, which obviously they are not.
I agree, the EU isn’t perfect, but it is the best the world has to offer for the future of democracy and individual freedoms. Afterall, perfect is the enemy of good.
And how exactly do you think those other wars were presented in the past? Do you think Nazi politicians weren’t telling their population that Lebensraum was exclusively for the defense of German culture and rights against the barbaric Russians? Do you not think that the imperialist powers in WW1 fighting each other framed these wars as defensive to their own populations? Essentially: “trust me bro, this next war will be the defensive war bro, I promise bro”
Didn’t I just tell you about the ongoing genocide in Gaza that European states support? How can you claim that things have changed when Europe keeps engaging in genocide?
“Maybe Europe has a history of barbaric colonialism and imperialism leaving tens (if not hundreds) of millions of deaths in its colonies in Africa, Asia and South America. Maybe European states have fought endless wars among each other in the name of self defence. Maybe Europe continues to engage in the support of genocidal apartheid states such as Israel, and recently itself participated in the bombing of Yugoslavia, Iraq and Libya. Maybe Europe is getting overrun by far-right politicians as we see in Poland, Italy and soon Germany and France. But Europe is the best and most free the world has to offer! Yes, I’m European, but I swear that opinion is completely reasoned, unlike the opinions of people from other countries outside Europe who hold the exact same beliefs towards their own countries! No, I’m not a nationalist/chauvinist”
Those are a lot of words for someone who has lost the argument some comments ago. Continuing to use whataboutisms and creating straw men to advance your warped view on geopolitics simply outs you as an imbecile, not worth any more effort.