Try reading MY comment. You are talking about a central element of the movie GATTACA from 1997. I know it’s old and many younger people haven’t seen it so I provided a link to the Wikipedia article about the film.
This issue was widely discussed, at least in American society, almost 30 years ago. The film is still heavily referenced in any discussion involving bio-ethics and genetic manipulation.
I mean, sure, if you ignore all of history. What if I was using CRISPR to prevent a child from being born black or brown?
Hell, what if I used it to keep a kid from being born deaf? The deaf community is one that’s very outspoken about exactly that kind of treatment as a form of eugenics, as it is a potential existential threat to their culture.
This isn’t going to lead to eugenics. You are living in a capitalist environment this is going to lead to only a population with a certain amount of income is going to be allowed to use this technology. Eugenics is a vocal minority and everybody that goes with eugenics does not have a basis as its always been disapproved from psychology to biology. You can find patterns but nothing is perfect and everybody has quirks. Also race is a social construct so eugenics can be completely useless as your parents and direct lineage matters more than anything for your biology.
I think it’s presumptuous that only a certain income level is going to have access to this. It very much depends on the scalability of the treatment. Nearly everyone in the entire nation got the COVID vaccine, and those that didn’t weren’t due to lack of financial means. Just because you assert this will be reserved for the ultra wealthy doesn’t make it so.
The rest of what you said is borderline unintelligible, but I’ll give it a shot.
Sure, it would probably be difficult to “un-black” a baby or something, as there are a ton of genetic markers that inform what we think of as “blackness.” But just because it’s hard, doesn’t mean it can’t be done.
And you say that Eugenics “is a vocal minority,” which I presume to mean that most people are anti-eugenics. But, as you say, we live in a capitalist hellscape. It would be entirely possible for a billionaire to run a “un-black your baby for a chance to win a million dollars” campaign (a’la the Elon Musk voting drive), and have that take off in a big way.
And all that assumes that people wouldn’t be driven to it by simple desire for conformity. It’s easy to justify a lot of things under the “my child would have a much better life if they just weren’t… fill in the blank.” In the modern climate as an example, there would probably be a lot of Hispanic people saying things like, “my child probably wouldn’t get abducted by ICE if they just were more white passing.” And that’s terrible, obviously, but I guarantee it would happen. Not every mother. Not even a majority. But a good number would.
This isn’t eugenics. This is taking advantage of crispr to make genetic modifications.
I agree that it’s not eugenics, at least not as we normally think of it, but it’s definitely edging into GATTACA territory.
Read the other comment eugenics won’t be realistic in a capitalist environment class division would be more common.
Try reading MY comment. You are talking about a central element of the movie GATTACA from 1997. I know it’s old and many younger people haven’t seen it so I provided a link to the Wikipedia article about the film.
This issue was widely discussed, at least in American society, almost 30 years ago. The film is still heavily referenced in any discussion involving bio-ethics and genetic manipulation.
I mean, sure, if you ignore all of history. What if I was using CRISPR to prevent a child from being born black or brown?
Hell, what if I used it to keep a kid from being born deaf? The deaf community is one that’s very outspoken about exactly that kind of treatment as a form of eugenics, as it is a potential existential threat to their culture.
What if was used to prevent a child from being born with Spina bifada? What if it was used to correct SB so that the child wasn’t aborted?
Or what if its used to cure deafness after the effected person is no longer a minor?
Being born brown is not a disease. 😅
Pretty sure that’s the point they’re trying to make.
This isn’t going to lead to eugenics. You are living in a capitalist environment this is going to lead to only a population with a certain amount of income is going to be allowed to use this technology. Eugenics is a vocal minority and everybody that goes with eugenics does not have a basis as its always been disapproved from psychology to biology. You can find patterns but nothing is perfect and everybody has quirks. Also race is a social construct so eugenics can be completely useless as your parents and direct lineage matters more than anything for your biology.
I think it’s presumptuous that only a certain income level is going to have access to this. It very much depends on the scalability of the treatment. Nearly everyone in the entire nation got the COVID vaccine, and those that didn’t weren’t due to lack of financial means. Just because you assert this will be reserved for the ultra wealthy doesn’t make it so.
The rest of what you said is borderline unintelligible, but I’ll give it a shot.
Sure, it would probably be difficult to “un-black” a baby or something, as there are a ton of genetic markers that inform what we think of as “blackness.” But just because it’s hard, doesn’t mean it can’t be done.
And you say that Eugenics “is a vocal minority,” which I presume to mean that most people are anti-eugenics. But, as you say, we live in a capitalist hellscape. It would be entirely possible for a billionaire to run a “un-black your baby for a chance to win a million dollars” campaign (a’la the Elon Musk voting drive), and have that take off in a big way.
And all that assumes that people wouldn’t be driven to it by simple desire for conformity. It’s easy to justify a lot of things under the “my child would have a much better life if they just weren’t… fill in the blank.” In the modern climate as an example, there would probably be a lot of Hispanic people saying things like, “my child probably wouldn’t get abducted by ICE if they just were more white passing.” And that’s terrible, obviously, but I guarantee it would happen. Not every mother. Not even a majority. But a good number would.