• tallwookie@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    the reality is that will take decades. I’m not going to stop driving my gas fueled vehicle & neither is anyone who reads this

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      1 year ago

      True, but we should try to elect politicians who will do something to try to ease our strain on the climate crisis if such a candidate exists. I’m glad seeing electric vehicle improvements, but it doesn’t really do anything if the energy companies powering the whole grid still power with fossil fuels.

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        1 year ago

        EVs tend to beat internal combustion cars even when the electricity comes entirely from fossil fuels, since the big power plants tend to be able to convert heat to electricity much more efficiently than a car engine can. But we don’t get all our power from fossil fuels these days – renewables, nuclear, and hydroelectric are all producing a significant portion. Depending on where you are it might be about half fossil fuels on average, but with huge regional variation.

        We do need to transition away from fossil fuel power generation, but that’s a thing we can do in parallel to replacing our vehicle fleet.

        (We also need to drive a lot less and use smaller vehicles on average, but that’s another topic.)

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      1 year ago

      You would be right. If the government were to never get involved. “It’ll take decades for the whole country to prepare for nuclear fallout” “It’ll take decades for the country to protect itself from HIV” etc. etc. Every public health crisis needs to the government to get involved and mediate, that’s what civilization has been since the time of the Greeks.

      • tallwookie@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        it’s not in the government’s interest to royally fuck the economy back into the shitter, which is what rushing the transition from petroleum to more sustainable resources will do.

        lol you think covid shortages were bad? international shipping, domestic train shipping, and local truck shipping ALL USE DIESEL - almost exclusively. merely changing all fuel systems without significant interruption to supply (untold millions dying of starvation) will will take decades - that’s WITH the government taking action.

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          The government’s interest is protecting it’s own system. If their has to be loss in profits for oil companies than so be it. Also you’re implying that the first to go off Diesel would be the supply line when obviously not. It would be power grids, the army then consumer cars than the supply chain. Do you think that any one with a functioning brain would try to make the supply lines go green first? You’re just doing a strawman.