• Moonrise2473@feddit.it
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    4 days ago

    Access to macOS and Windows releases are currently restricted to sponsors, a 5 USD monthly sponsorship is required.

    What the fuck?

    Fuck that, isn’t this just a maintained fork of clementine??

    And I tried this player, it’s nothing special

    I could understand a permanent nag button like nanazip, but $60/year where most of the hard job (libraries, decoders, base ui) was done by someone else for free?

    I’m blacklisting this shit even if I’m a Linux user

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      2 days ago

      What is wrong with this policy? Strawberry is GPL, this sounds like the dev is committed enough to FOSS to not care too much about issues that come up on proprietary operating systems. This is very obviously not going to bring in a lot of money, how many people do you picture using windows or mac who think strawberry is so much better than other options that it’s worth paying for? They’re not advertising this in any way, there’s no plot to trick poor souls into paying.

      It strikes me as an easy and effective way to dismiss without argument bugfix requests on operating systems the developer doesn’t care to touch. It’s saying we don’t want to neglect any users on other platforms that sincerely care about our project, but otherwise we just want to prioritze FOSS, so let’s write off essentially all proprietary OS users while providing an avenue in case someone actually does care about our project that much.

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        23 hours ago

        easy and effective way to dismiss without argument bugfix requests on operating systems the developer doesn’t care to touch

        if you ask $60/year to each user to support an operating system, then it’s better to have first-class support with maximum issue priority

        This is the most expensive music player app ever commercialized

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          Which is the reason I thought it was obvious that no one will pay that without a sincere affinity for the project in some way beyond just using the app itself. Who do you imagine would pay here just to get access to the player? You’re talking about this like it’s a scam, but a scam has an intended target audience that we can at least imagine.

          I can’t picture someone choosing to buy a $60 subscription to this with no reason other than being a windows user who is dead-set on using strawberry over any other music player. There’s no way the devs are raking in cash from windows users. They’ll maybe get a couple people who like strawberry because they are already foss advocates and are forced to use windows on one of their pcs, ie people who already understand what strawberry’s development priorities will be and also understand that what they are buying could be built from source code without paying.

          It’s essentially a policy to ignore those operating systems except when someone cares enough to make a donation, under the reasonable assumption that bug reports from donors will still be worth their time. Windows users who have no knowledge about the project beyond “it plays music” will not shell out $60 by mistake. Literally no one is aware of strawberry’s existence but unaware of alternatives.

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            12 hours ago

            The way he wrote shows he’s more concerned taking down “pirate” versions of compiled files rather than the trouble of supporting windows users

            I’ve worked many hours attempting to get these sites to remove the content, and I’ve managed to remove most of them

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      I wouldn’t even look at it or think of it on windows.

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        Tauon and audacious are the only ones I’ve found that handle large libraries well. I use Tauon(or mpv if just playing a single file).

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          Yes, it’s really good! I still run it with proton, because I couldn’t find a good alternative on Linux. banshee is unmaintained (it was my favorite for a long time) and all others have their shortcomings in some way or another.

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            What’s wrong with Clementine? I have yet to find a better desktop music player. Radios, podcasts, library, playlists, what’s missing?

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                Yeah, that is more or less true. Although the github page is a newer version than the web page says it is.

                It builds and works great though.

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              Looks like garbage, can’t support multiple genre tags. Might as well be VLC as far as music management.

              God I miss MusicBee.

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                Looks like garbage? Wtf? Looks great and is easy to use I am so confused by this comment.

                I don’t use genres so I guess that is a valid complaint if you use them.

                As far as music management, other than genre, what is missing?

                I have it connected to over 4tb of my music and its fast, searches work on many levels, and I have never seen a player better.

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                  It looks like Windows Vista. Not a fan.

                  Multiple genre tags are a big part of how I search around my collection. This feature built into ID3 over 25 years ago. Absolute lunacy that I can only find three players anywhere that support it (MusicBee, Quod Libet, Foobar and derivatives). Otherwise, MB’s layout just felt more clean, intuitive, and user-friendly.

                  Clementine wouldn’t recognize my phone, either, so reading/syncing was also out. Basically none of the reasons I wanted it worked and I hated the way it looked. But apparently all most people ask of music players is “plays music.mp3 when I navigate to the folder and double click on the icon.” In which case any of them do that, so Clementine isn’t anything special.

                  Apologies for the tone. I’m pretty bitter about the state of music players on Linux.

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                    I guess it doesn’t look like windows to me, maybe because I am not on windows? It follows my custom theme on KDE with kvantum quite nicely.

                    I am not sure what else it could look like… Although you can customize what you want to see, title, name, date, source, bitrate and a couple of dozen more things.

                    I have no idea what you mean by folder, it’s a cataloged library in a database…

                    I don’t know about copying to my phone, I just stream to it. All the actual files are on a server with several ways to access that.

                    But podcasts sync without issue to a tiny mp3 device I take kayaking.

                    Edit: I forgot to say, I get it if you use multi Genre it is a deal breaker. I went and looked at music bee, and they use those damn circle cut icons (hate that so much) and lots of album covers. I have no use for either.

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        fooyin. It’s foobar2000 clone but fully FOSS. It’s also adding a lot of features that foobar2000 does not have.

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          I check the fooyin is quite buggy. I changed the player layout. But, the music tracks is gone and I need to restart the app again.

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            Yeah, it’s a little bit unstable as it basically a totally new project. Surely promising though!

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        3 days ago

        Not the person you responded to, but on Linux, i think quod libet is the best for me. On Windows, (still) foobar2000.

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          I tried quod libet. the design is more like GTK than qt that strawberry/clementine and it is much more retro like and stable. So far so good

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            Awesome, glad you like it so far. Also take a look at the plugins from the main menu. it comes with a bunch and most are disabled by default. It is also, if you are so technically inclined, relatively easy to write new plugins in Python.

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        3 days ago

        VLC.
        Else it’s Jellyfin Web/Jellyfin Media Player on PC or for smartphone it’s Symfonium and Finamp