• ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org
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    1 day ago

    Do you know why the 3 key has an n? I have a hunch:

    This is clearly a tactical keyboard for use in military, aviation or maritime navigation systems! /s

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      23 hours ago

      Now I gotta know the tactical reason for the 2 key to also have the 2 symbol?

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        20 hours ago

        I did’t know much about the German keyboard layout but I know the Czech one, which is derived from it (we both use QWERTZ) and was able to look up most of what I didn’t know.

        So, the keyboard has 4 layers: default, Shift, AltGr, AltGr+Shift (the fourth one is not standard but is recognized by xkb; in Czech I use it for custom character mappings, in German it is standardized but Linux-only).

        • Default layer prints lowercase letters a-z and äöüß, numbers and the symbols in the lower-left of each key.
        • Shift layer prints uppercase letters A-Z and ÄÖÜ and symbols at the top left of each key.
          • Caps Lock only affects letters.
        • AltGr layer prints lower-right symbols, most of which are only populated in a later version of the layout.
        • AltGr+Shift (Linux only) prints upper-right symbols.

        As you can see, AltGr+2 produces ², and AltGr+3 produces ³. I think the full-size “2” and “n” are misprints. My old Czech keyboard has some errors too.

        By the way, Czech is more chaotic:

        • we have lots more diacritics so the number row only prints numbers on its Shift layer (most people therefore use the numpad only)
        • to print rare diacritics (ó, ď, ť, ň, and German ä, ö, ü), one has to first press the corresponding modifier key (´, ˇ, ˚, ¨) like on typewriters
          • an alternative for common capital diacritics (á, é, ě, í, ú, ů, ý, ž, š, č, ř) is to briefly turn on Caps Lock (advantage over typewriters)
          • pressing the ˚ key twice prints the degree sign (°) twice (Windows) or once (Linux)
        • there is a bloody dedicated § key but we need to press AltGr+7 twice, then backspace (or Alt+96) for a grave (`), which is part of ASCII and used in Markdown
        • physical keyboards almost always reserve the right side of the keys for the English-US layout (very confusing for novices) so one has to type in the AltGr layer blind (except for ); it contains useful symbols ([]{}<>|\€$@#^&×÷`) as well as useless ones (Đđ – these are Slovene, why not the Slovak Ôô?), leading people to prefer Windows-only left-Alt+numpad codes (such as Alt+64 for @) that use the obsolete OEM-1252 codepage (the Unicode extension has to be enabled via registry and Alt+letters hex codes get passed to programs anyway, often defocusing the input element). I only found a Slovak one on Wikimedia Commons
        • some lazy manufacturers combine the Czech/English and Slovak/English layouts, which are similar except ľ, ť and ô, leading to 5 (!) symbols per key, 3 of which are irrelevant unless you switch layouts
        • Gboard for Android offers QWERTY for Czech, which looks normal (hold for diacritics, potentially swipe for ě and ů) and the unpopular QWERTZ-PC, which has all the physical keyboard’s quirks, but its “Czech QWERTZ” is based off German QWERTZ, containing ú and ů but not the other diacritics for some reason. All other keyboard apps with Czech language layout get this right (hold for diacritics, potentially swipe for ě and ů)!
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        22 hours ago

        The “n” is probably a misprint, AltGr+2 prints “²” and AltGr+3 prints “³” in the German layout; it can be customized to actually print “n” in xkb though.

        I mean, if the redundant Windows keys produce different codes, it could be worth a lot to macro enthusiasts. The model exists with an English QWERTY layout too:

        The picture seems to be from 1998 so you’ll likely need a passive DIN to mini-DIN adapter as well.