• mwguy@infosec.pub
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    Never in history has violence been initiated by the oppressed.

    That may be the most historically inaccurate statement I’ve ever heard.

    Like what was the French and Indian war then? This statement could excuse the initiation of violence of any group in history, including the Nazis.

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        1 year ago

        Indians fought on both sides of that war, often against one another.

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            What? The whole reason the nations split they way they did is because they had a long history of war with one another. That’s a pretty ignorant assertion.

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                What? Pre-European Natives fought one another. Warfare predates colonization.

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                  There can be no SPLIT without colonization.

                  We’re talking about a specific scenario, but if you want to move the goalposts, let’s do that.

                  In each and every conflict, there is one party pushing their values or priorities at the cost of others, even in tribal conflicts. The aggressor is the colonizer (oppressor) and the other person is the aggrieved party (oppressed). In each of those conflicts, the oppressor is responsible for every atrocity that is committed because in their absence, there is NO CONFLICT.

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                    That’s such a simplification of human interaction that I’m not sure there’s a single conflict I’m human history that fully fits that definition.