• dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world
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    I’m all in favor of zuruck replacing return, because that just sounds cooler. Plus z doesn’t get enough use in my programs these days.

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      Why? Programming language isn’t a natural language. In fact, I think not knowing English makes it easier, since you cannot attach any preconceived notions, assumptions, or word order to keywords. I learned some Pascal, Visual Basic and whatever GameMaker used at the time without being fluent in English.

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      I found a random PHP file online and recreated your trauma:

      <?phpcz
      jmennýprostor Itb;
      
      
      třída OvladačUživatele
      {
          soukromá §větev;
      
          veřejná funkce akcePřihlašovacíhoFormuláře()
          {
              §poleParametrů = [
                  'názevStránky' => 'Přihlašovací formulář',
              ];
              §vzor = 'domov.html.větev';
      
              §html = §toto->větev->vykresli(§vzor, §poleParametrů);
              vypiš §html;
          }
      
      
          veřejná funkce zpracujPřihlašovacíAkci(§uživatelskéJméno, §heslo)
          {
              když(§toto->platnéÚdajeSprávce(§uživatelskéJméno, §heslo)) {
                  §_SEZENÍ['uživatelskéJméno'] = §uživatelskéJméno;
                  §poleParametrů = [
                      'názevStránky' => 'Vzorový formulář',
                  ];
                  §vzor = 'domov.html.větev';
      
                  §html = §toto->větev->vykresli(§vzor, §poleParametrů);
                  vypiš §html;
              } jinak {
                  §poleParametrů = [
                      'názevStránky' => 'Formulář chyby přihlašování',
                  ];
                  §vzor = 'chybaPřihlášení.html.větev';
      
                  §html = §toto->větev->vykresli(§vzor, §poleParametrů);
                  vypiš §html;
              }
          }
      
          soukromá funkce platnéÚdajeSprávce(§j, §h)
          {
              když('admin' == §j && 'admin' == §h){
                  vrať pravda;
              }
              jinak když('staff' == §j && 'staff' == §h){
                  vrať pravda;
              } jinak {
                  vrať nepravda;
              }
          }
      
          veřejná funkce jePřihlášen()
          {
              když(jenastaveno(§_SEZENÍ['uživatelskéJméno'])){
                  vrať pravda;
              } jinak {
                  vrať nepravda;
              }
          }
      
          veřejná funkce uživatelskéJménoZSezení()
          {
              když(jenastaveno(§_SEZENÍ['uživatelskéJméno'])){
                  vrať §_SEZENÍ['uživatelskéJméno'];
              } jinak {
                  vrať '';
              }
          }
      
      }
      

      Is this what it looked like? (I also took the liberty of replacing $ with § because of the Czech keyboard layout; FYI: yes we do have a $ available as AltGr+ů but § is in the base layer; I would also replace the backtick/grève `, which is obtained by pressing AltGr+š once or twice (OS-dependent), with °).

      Edit: BTW my first code was in the “Imagine” program, a Logo IDE with Czech localization (including syntax: do, vz, vp, vl, puntík, smaž, domů, příkaz, konec, piš etc.). The documentation was piss-poor, I never learnt if it had arrays or code comments. The textbook I had didn’t even mention variables, I only learned about them in a short PDF guide I found online. Before that, I would use pixels on the canvas as variables.

      Had my 10yo self received a Python runtime instead, I wouldn’t be stimied by the “you don’t need to pass arguments if every variable is global” mindset I’m still struggling to overcome. I found programming challenges online and was able to solve most theoretical ones, but Imagine was too limited to implement all but the basic practical ones, not to mention that it ran way slower than Python would. I was convinced that the lack of speed was mostly the hardware’s fault and that I would need a low-level language like C++ to solve the 1000×1000 inputs in some puzzles. I got in touch with the challenge authors and they suggested Eclipse but I couldn’t get it to work. I was too overwhelmed by the English interface and documentation and barely knew what a compiler was. I learnt decent English soon after but the fear of IDEs stayed, and eventually I turned towards electronics instead.

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      Well, in PHP you cannot #define new words from some new language to mean basic language keywords.

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    I worked with one of the authors of the Brazilian SQL. It was exactly what it looks, every reserved word translated to Brazilian Portuguese.

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      Oh god. I still have nightmares about that time I had excel formulas in Portuguese, I refuse to think about SQL.

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        Don’t forget the keyboard shortcuts. Office products would change shortcuts according to the language, so it would be more mnemonic. Ctrl-F for find and Ctrl-B for bold would be reassigned to whatever initials that language had. Fun! /s

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    Pretty sure druckef should be drucked. printf means print (to) file. “File” is valid German, but it is non-standard and “Datei” seems to be the preferred form.

    I could also argue that that d should be capitalised, but I’m already overstepping my bounds considering I know very little German.

    I wouldn’t want to say which should take precedence between C’s preference for all-lowercase keywords and functions and German’s Rule to capitalise all Nouns.

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        It doesn’t fit very well in this context, the idea behind “beinhalten” is that the subject “includes” the object (i.e. the object is part of the content of the subject), but the #include command in the C preprocessor isn’t about describing that kind of situation, it’s a command “I want to include one file in another”, a better verb in German for that is “einbinden”. (I realize this isn’t a very good explanation, but I’m a native speaker of German and can tell you that no one would use the verb “beinhalten” in this context.)

        The previous commenter’s German teacher likely prefers “enthalten” instead of “beinhalten”, which has the same problem in this context though.

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        Maybe incorrect rebracketing? It’s supposed to be be-inhalten, not bein-halten. Otherwise maybe a writing style thing…

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      DDP has the following data types: Zahl (long), Kommazahl (double), Buchstabe (char), Text (string), Wahrheitswert (bool) und Listen (list)

      Gottimhimmel, that would drive me crazy, and I’m German.

      The code screenshot is pretty nice though. Actual grammar in there, full sentences that “Goethe would be proud of”.

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      I must be old because I remember that as being the standard form until Java popularized

      <visibility> <static?> <type> <name> {
      

      I mean I’m not that old, but I was reading more C and C++ books and tutorials when I was a kid, because “ew Java”