• Sooperstition@lemmy.one
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        1 year ago

        No Israel or Israeli apartheid, but why conflate that with not letting Jewish people be there?

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          Because Jews like to live in Israel? A state granted by the U.N after all the atrocities done to the jewish people…and when groups like Hamas use that term they sure as hell don’t want any Jews to live there because you know they’re fucking degenerates who want to wipe out jews.

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            You might want to recheck your history if you think the UN simply granted Jewish people a bunch of Mandatory Palestine because they were sorry about the Holocaust

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              In the face of increasing violence after World War II, the British handed the issue over to the recently established United Nations. The result was Resolution 181(II), a plan to partition Palestine into Independent Arab and Jewish States and the Special International Regime for the City of Jerusalem. The Jewish state was to receive around 56% of the land area of Mandate Palestine, encompassing 82% of the Jewish population, though it would be separated from Jerusalem. The result was 33 to 13 in favour of the resolution, with 10 abstentions.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Declaration_of_Independence

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine

              Thats what the U.N is for right, to handle very controverse topics and to find a solution for them. Sorry for the participants of the middle east but thats how a vote works, even if the outcome is not what you expected, but thats democracy.

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      It’s not, Palestinians are Semitic. Zionists have conflated anti zionism with being antisemitic. Fuck Zionists

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        1 year ago

        Though ‘antisemitism’ could be construed as prejudice against people who speak other Semitic languages, this is not how the term is commonly used…

    • AlmightySnoo 🐢🇮🇱🇺🇦@lemmy.worldOP
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      1 year ago

      Because like the swastika which went from a cultural Eurasian symbol to what is obviously now a Nazi sign, the “from the river to the sea” is mostly code correlated with antisemitic acts like in the linked article. As you can notice also, Hamas is proudly using the slogan while having called for the complete destruction of Israel in their founding charter while Fatah dropped it altogether.

      In 1966, Hafez El-Assad said: “We shall never call for, nor accept peace. We shall only accept war and the restoration of the usurped land. We have resolved to drench this land with our blood, to oust you, aggressors, and throw you into the sea for good.

      (https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1994/10/09/the-mind-of-hafez-assad/0be81ae7-2a5a-4e04-bb62-3e527318e317/ )

      and that’s roughly the period where the slogan came to be.