• zaph@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    There is no widely-accepted definition of “mass shooting” and different organizations tracking such incidents use different definitions. Definitions of mass shootings exclude warfare and sometimes exclude instances of gang violence, armed robberies, familicides and terrorism.

    Maybe it has something to do with it not being any kind of official term and your panties are twisted over how the media writes them up ignoring the pain and suffering from others and building your strawman off semantics?

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      11 months ago

      It’s not that the media writes it up in such sensationalist terms, “if it bleeds, it leads” has been journalism 101 since… well since forever.

      My beef is the unquestioning repetition. Once you see it, you can’t un-see it:

      https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/campus-shooting-2

      “nearly a thousand mass shootings to have taken place since the Newtown shooting in 2009”

      Newtown is the Sandy Hook Elementary school shooting. So when they conflate those two things in the same sentence they want you to believe that there have been nearly 1000 shootings as horrific, deadly, senseless and random as the one that claimed the lives of 20 six and seven year olds, and that is absolutely, patently, false.

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        11 months ago

        Why are you like this? So since every mass shooting isn’t worse than the worst one they don’t matter? Stop making up excuses. I’m don’t with you.

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          11 months ago

          No, I’m saying it’s not the same class of crime and the only reason the media conflates them is to scare people.

          I’ll give you an example from my own back yard… one of those “thousand mass shootings since Newtown” was this one:

          A couple of brothers in Portland decided to do an illegal weed operation. Oregon allows you to grow, own, smoke, sell, and buy weed, but only for in state use.

          3 guys fly in from Texas for the illegal weed buy. Words were had, guns were drawn, both brothers shot and killed, 2/3 Texans shot and killed, 3rd Texan arrested sometime later.

          https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2021/06/two-portland-brothers-two-marijuana-buyers-die-in-gun-battle-during-attempted-drug-ripoff.html

          That is just normal crime. That’s not a mass shooting in the same way Sandy Hook was and to breath it in the same breath as Sandy Hook disresepects each of the 20 kids that died there.

          Gun Violence Archive? 4 people dead = “mass shooting”. No, robbery gone wrong? Sure. Crime? Absolutely. Save the mass shooting shit for when innocent people get killed.

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            11 months ago

            Read very carefully please. It doesn’t matter what people call it, children dying to gun violence at school should not be happening, one per incident or 50 per incident is irrelevant, and the only difference between the US and first world nations where it doesn’t happen is our gun culture.

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              11 months ago

              Oh, agreed, which makes it WORSE when they are conflated in the “more mass shootings than days of the year” bullshit.