• NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Do you think the entire Russian population is scheming against Finland? Because they’re not. The shitty ass government and the Russian people are not synonymous with one another.

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      11 months ago

      Over 80 % of Russians support the war in Ukraine. This whole ‘Putin isnt the Russian population’ is just an excuse to not look like a country of fachists. Germany after WW2 did the same.

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        11 months ago

        Just because propaganda is effective doesn’t mean you should dehumanize them. They’re people just like you and me. Hell, after 9/11, I’m pretty sure like 80% of the U.S. supported invading Iraq… just depends on where you are, and what information you are being fed.

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          11 months ago

          We dehumanized the germans in early 1900s too for understandable reasons, even though not all germans in WW2 were nazis. Perhaps that shouldn’t be done, but when it looks from the outside like the whole nation is walking lockstep with its leaders, it’s difficult not to.

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              11 months ago

              Thats just post-war propaganda. I am german and while the Germans tried to bury their involvement post war, during the student protests of 1968 it became clear that the vast majority knew about concentration camps and was collaborating. Even my own great-grandma said that she had nothing to do with the Nazis and didn’t know what happened. After her death I did some research into family history and saw that my great-grandfather was actually Gauleiter, so the highest ranked Nazi in a specific region and personally signed the deportation of the jews.

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                11 months ago

                Telling a personal anecdote about your great grandfather who was an active duty military officer isn’t illustrating the point you think it is.

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      11 months ago

      Obviously it’s not the people’s fault that their government keeps using them as an excuse to invade their neighbors. That doesn’t mean their neighbors need to be fucking idiots and load a gun, point it at their own head, and say pweetty pwease don’t pull it.

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      11 months ago

      Of course not. I also didn’t think every single person I ran into had Covid. That didn’t mean I would shake hands with anyone offering.

      But either way, it still doesn’t change the problem with housing and work.