• circuscritic@lemmy.ca
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    11 months ago

    This is objectively false.

    Setting aside the issue of QA and how and in what conditions this methamphetamine is being produced, no, the pharmacological effects of methamphetamine are NOT just the same as Adderall (blend of 4 different amphetamine salts).

    It’s also not prescribed for ADHD, except in rare circumstances. It’s mostly prescribed for conditions like narcolepsy, because it’s significantly more psychoactive then amphetamine salts, and that’s BEFORE you factor in issue of these being cartel produced counterfeit pressed meth pills vs production in an actual pharmaceutical laboratory with the accompanying conditions and controls.

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      11 months ago

      Im not telling people to buy crank from some dude down the street instead of going to the pharmacy for their Adderall. You’re just putting words in my mouth and getting mad at them.

      However, I was misremembering a study I read a few years ago. Outside of in vitro and rat studies, I couldn’t find anything measuring the pharmacological effects of Adderall and meth. I should’ve said behavioural and physiological instead. It was intranasal instead of oral as well, for what that’s worth. The behavioral effects are essentially identical and there are very minor differences in effects on heart rate and blood pressure. I will be correcting my comment after I reply to you.

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        11 months ago

        I put no words in your mouth. I took your response, briefly explained why it was wrong, and then further expanded on why it was dangerous.

        Your words:

        Not to mention the pharmacological effects of methamphetamine are indistinguishable from Adderall when taken orally in similar doses

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          11 months ago

          And what part of that mentioned anything about sourcing meth from the streets? As far as my intentions are concerned, I was speaking strictly pure, prescribed methamphetamine, taken as prescribed. That could’ve been inferred from context since the comment I was replying to was about how methamphetamine is sometimes prescribed for ADHD. The conversation wasn’t about street drugs and until you commented, no one brought it up

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            11 months ago

            No worries, I didn’t realize that you hadn’t actually read the article before making your comments.

            So, you can disregard my comments where I had incorrectly assumed we both actually read the linked LA Times story.

            My other comments about how it’s factually incorrect to say methamphetamine and Adderall are the same, those are still in bounds. Right?

            Just FYI counterfeit pills sold in Mexico are either made by the cartels, or they’re fake placebo bullshit (both types are mentioned in said article).

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              11 months ago

              Forgot what the thread was originally about lol, my bad. I skimmed the article, I’m working and haven’t given it a proper read yet. I see why you were saying all that now, that’s on me and I apologize.

              To say they’re the same is incorrect as they are different compounds. But if we’re judging them on their effects on the mind and body, taken the same way and in the same doses; they illicit a nearly identical response. If you accidentally took a meth pill instead of Adderall, it’s likely you would only notice minor differences if you noticed anything