• okamiueru@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I’d be willing to bet good money that this is pretty fucking terrorising to the people who live in Gaza.

    It’s also predictable to see your username on every post about Israel doing evil shit. Always taking the apologetic tone. Not to wrap myself in tinfoil, but, you wouldn’t be part of some propaganda machinery, right? Perhaps just a sucker for one?

    Oh, and where were we on the “Do you condemn Israel for its genocide”? Ifs and buts, still, I presume?

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      10 months ago

      I’d be willing to bet good money that this is pretty fucking terrorising to the people who live in Gaza.

      This is not, in fact, the definition of terrorism.

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        10 months ago

        Here’s a fun follow up.

        Do you think Israel is justified when by the IDF own admission 2 out of every 3 people they kill are civilians and over 50% of the population in Gaza is under 18?

        What do you feel about the new acronym that has come out of this, WCNSF?

        Understandable that genocide is a sticky term to use, will you admit what they are doing is crimes against humanity?

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          10 months ago

          That sounds like terrorism to me - the unlawful violence against civilians for political reasons.

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        10 months ago

        Terrorism doesn’t mean “scary thing.”

        It means a lot of things to a lot of people, in a lot of contexts. There are more than 250 definitions used in academic literature. More interestingly, it’s consistently used by people with significant bias, and inability to understand it from the perspective of “the enemy”. It is a word, after all.

        Now, king of the red herring fallacy of which you are, I’ll just point out that when a state commits war crimes against a civilian population, it’s reasonably well accepted to be considered as “state terrorism”. But, I’m sure you’ll regally conjure a ignoratio elenchi response.

        Not that this ever was a bar needed to pass in order to answer the rather simple question posed. So, to get back to where you sidetracked off from:

        Around 23k civilians in Gaza have been killed by Israel since October 7th. On 9/11 2001, around 2.6k were killed in those attacks. So, around 8.8 “worth” of 9/11s.

        Given 94 days since October 7th, it would be a “9/11 amount of civilian casualties” every 10.6 days.

        But why not use a different unit of measurement. How about:

        A “Hamas October 7th” every 5 days. For over 3 months straight.

        But hey, it isn’t terrorism if it’s genocide, right? But, you’re not sure about that last part. Perhaps it’s not systematic enough to check that box? After all, it’s not like they’re carpet bombing a region with a population density twice that of of San Fransisco, of which half are children. Given the average of 10 civilians killed per Israeli airstrike. There is some randomness for it to not be on-the-nose genocide, but not too much randomness to be obvious acts of terrorism. Just that pleasantly tempered amount of killing of children to argue in bad faith.