• JustSomePerson@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    I don’t want a “new sim”, I want my old one, which doesn’t exist anymore since it was virtual and only existed in my now broken previous phone. How does it work in that situation?

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      9 months ago

      Call your carrier or go into a store and they move it over. If your phone is broken you’ll kinda be SOL since there’s no way to authenticate the move.

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        9 months ago

        Exactly. What a shitty anti-feature. Your answer proves that the people saying that “eSIMs are functionally the same as normal SIM” are full of absolute shit.

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            9 months ago

            Not the person you asked but I have a couple of sims by different providers that I swap between phones/sim routers when I need to make calls or use data from that carrier. Popping the sim into an old device and configuring whatever I need is super convenient.

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            9 months ago

            Keeping my number. Are you saying that I can immediately, online, get my existing number connected to a different handset? If I can’t, then that’s why I want to transfer the physical SIM.

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              9 months ago

              Now I can’t answer for other regions, but with my carrier here in Norway I can sign in to their website and authenticate with the government ID system (bankid) and generate a new esim and get the QR code. Takes about a minute total.

              I’m personally more for physical sim cards as swapping it into a new phone or swapping in a traveler datasim etc is just something I prefer to have physically.

              That being said, I use esim for my phone number, and then swap in travel sims for data with my physical sim slot, works really well when you travel a lot.

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                  9 months ago

                  I’ve got a physical code generator as backup like any person worried about their phone breaking should have.

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              9 months ago

              Are you saying that I can immediately, online, get my existing number connected to a different handset?

              Yes, that’s exactly how it works

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                9 months ago

                What prevents someone else from doing that at any point, taking over my number? Is the only authentication a simple login to the mobile provider’s website?

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                  9 months ago

                  If SIM swapping is your concern, know that it is just as simple to do with physical SIMs. It’s not like your phone number is hardcoded to that one card alone. The phone company can easily move your number around. Literally anything you’d want to do with a physical SIM you can do with an eSIM. Some very niche situations may be easier with a physical one but over all it’s a much nicer experience with eSims

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                    9 months ago

                    Literally anything you’d want to do with a physical SIM you can do with an eSIM.

                    No. There is no reason for you to blatantly LIE. It is NOT possible for the consumer to switch to using a borrowed or backup handset, when there is no physical token. How on earth do you think that contradicting actual reality is an argument?

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                  9 months ago

                  You trust your carrier to not give your number away today, right? Many providers allow a number migration code to be generated from their website, protected by just their authentication.

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                    9 months ago

                    The fact that carriers have poor security today isn’t an argument for discontinuing the part of the system that still allows the consumer to be in control. It’s an argument against it.