• Fudoshin ️🏳️‍🌈@feddit.uk
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    9 months ago

    To play devils advocate - the “gentlemans agreement” you speak of isn’t perfect. The US was caught spying on Germany. I’m pretty sure the US & UK are only such tight allies because of shared intelligence gathering.

    Also the US has shown twice (WWI & II) that allies are expendable until America is threatened directly.

    • sbv@sh.itjust.works
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      9 months ago

      the “gentlemans agreement” you speak of isn’t perfect

      That’s what I’m trying to illustrate. The post that I’m replying to suggests that a multipolar world is fine, “we” should stay out of the other poles’ spheres of influence, and that there’s a hard distinction between economic, philosophical, and military jockeying. I don’t think that’s the case. The gentleman’s agreement that I’m referring to would be between poles.

      You bring up a great example how “we” fuck our allies even when we have a gentleman’s agreement with them. Which is a great point.

      Fuckery is going to happen: we need to keep our friends close, and we need to build our international agreements in a way that keeps us safe. Assuming other governments will adhere to rules-based order with siloed areas of competition is unlikely to succeed.