• Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      Because israel was holding Palestinian hostages and turned Gaza into an open air concentration camp and that’s not very cool. And israel keeps terrorizing their mosque which is very Islamophobic.

      So Hamas asked israel to stop nicely in 2018 with the march to return and israel held a Palestinian kneecap shooting competition.

      Israel decided that they don’t listen to people that ask nicely. Now we’re here.

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        So what’s changed since Oct 7? Was Hamas able to achieve peace and remove the concentration camp conditions or has it worsened?

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          Yes it’s looking like Hamas is going to achieve those objectives.

          Sadly because israel is a Nazi state, it’s like fighting against the Nazis. People die when you fight against the Nazis.

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            So, just to circle back to og question: Palestine (or what’s left of it) is on track to no longer be a concentration camp and hostages are being released? The conditions for palestinians have improved since Oct 7?

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              Did living conditions improve for people while they were fighting against the Nazis?

              It must be difficult to understand but sometimes thing have to get worse before they get better.

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                What is a reasonable length of time the Palestinians should endure this strategy? Fighting Nazis during WW2 lasted 6 years. The Palestinian-Israeli conflict has been going on for almost 100 years.

                Has Hamas been able to improve anything using this strategy or has Israel gained an advantage over each intifada / attack in the course of the last 100 years? Who has benefited the most from the current Hamas strategy?

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                  As long as Nazi israel doesn’t stop of course.

                  I am unsure why you are blaming israeli terror on Hamas.

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                    5 months ago

                    Each time Hamas attacks, Israel retaliates with extreme disproportionate violence and manages to expand settlements aggressively. So far, how would you say Hamas has improved the lives of Palestinians by instigating violence:

                    [ _ ] Significantly better

                    [ _ ] About the same

                    [ _ ] Significantly worse

                    As a follow up, what is a reasonable period Palestinians should endure Hamas tactics:

                    [ _ ] One year

                    [ _ ] Ten years

                    [ _ ] Another hundred years

                    Israel is going to keep doing the same shitty aggressive behavior and exploit every attack and thousands of Palestinians die. It’s almost like peace is not their primary objective (for either side). Should we keep encouraging Hamas do the same strategy of the past 100 years or should we try something different? What’re your thoughts, Link?