• N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 months ago

    Both sides have a lot of hatred and resentment toward each other. The problem is that the power balance is extremely heavily in favor of Israel, and they are able to exert their will on the Palestinians through force the Palestinians have no answer for.

    But yes, killing innocent people is bad whenever it happens, and no, not all Israelis are bad, just the government, military, and settlers. One admittedly horrific massacre does not give Israel license to commit genocide on the Palestinian people, which is precisely what is happening right now.

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      Yes let’s compare them together:

      A group of designated terrorists, absorbed into, a military force, that forces all European and North American citizens to join their forces and continue it “killing” and “stealing” of other people land. Compared in haterd for people who got their stuff stolen, killed, and oppressed in their damn land.

      It is like police killing black people and a politician goes on about how trust between the community need to be built again. When it is one sided oppression.

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      the thing is, as shown here, there are no zionist civilians. not one. they are all armed ready and not just willing but eager to fight.

      that isn’t to say there aren’t any sort of resistance, but while they’re not quite partisans yet, friendly fire is not the same as killing civilians.

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        80% of American jews self identify as zionists.

        Are you honestly arguing that american jews who have never been to israel and have never served in any military are valid targets to be killed by the palestinian ‘resistance’?

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          ‘I’m not the one killing you, but I do support the people killing you, and may even be financially aiding their efforts.’

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        3 months ago

        Being forced from your homes; deprived of food, water, and healthcare; and tortured and terrorized is genocide by any definition.

        Comparing the effectiveness of your genocide to the effectiveness of Nazi genocide does not help your cause.

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          3 months ago

          genocide has a very specific definition under international law and “tortured and terrorized” is not genocide. It is torture, and terror.

          Do you consider Hamas’ terror attacks and torture of civilian hostages to be genocide against Israel? Of course you don’t. Why? Is it the lack of effectiveness of your genocide that makes you OK with it?

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            Genocide is an internationally recognized crime where acts are committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group

            The destruction of Gaza and the continued displacement in the West Bank for this definition. Israel is destroying Palestine and the Palestinian people. That definition is from the Holocaust Museum.

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        An outright instantaneous genocide would bring about too much bad publicity.

        Crippling the sovereign functionality of Palestinians along with killing and displacing ‘enough’ of them to prevent them from clawing any of that functionality back is the goal, and that’s what is happening.

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          Typical fascist doublespeak, the enemy is both too strong and too weak. They are strong enough to do genocide, but too weak to actually do genocide so they have to do a hidden conspiracy super secret slow motion genocide which means will literally never actually finish the genocide they started.

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          So it’s only genocide, if you redefine genocide to mean “crippling the sovereign functionality” instead of “destroying the people”.