• brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    It feels like they are totally beholden to Israel.

    If they push back hard, they alienate swing voters who like Israel from the old days, aka apocalypse.

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      17 hours ago

      This is actually a persistent myth: there is no evidence that they are beholden to a constituency that would punish them for any actions that curtail Israel.

      Israel’s actions are wildly unpopular across the electorate. They are unpopular with nearly all Democrats as well as most independents and a very large plurally of Republicans. I have seen numerous polls that show that there is a very significant number of voters that Harris is losing over this, and I have seen absolutely nothing to indicate that there is any measurable cost to her speaking out against Israel at all. Which is really sad. Because it means that this is absolutely a moral choice on her part. This is not an electoral choice at all.

      https://truthout.org/articles/poll-endorsing-israel-arms-embargo-would-boost-harriss-support-to-49-percent/

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        9 hours ago

        I am not religious so I don’t know the details but I have a friend who is very religious and refuses to vote for Trump again. He hates Harris but won’t give me a reason. When I have brought up the Israel stuff he immediately jumps to a very, holy land, must support and defend at any cost mentality. He would never vote Democrat but it makes me wonder how pervasive this weird fairy tale attachment exists throughout the voting base.

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      17 hours ago

      A majority of Americans are against the action in Gaza. It is a popular opinion not to support it, unless you’re a major donor.

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        17 hours ago

        So in the last few weeks, Biden can pull support as much as possible basically giving Bibi the finger. Any funding that dries up is unlikely to have more of an effect than pulling support. This helps Harris win. Then she can re-woo them over the next 4 years.

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        17 hours ago

        A majority of those who actually turn out to vote are pro Israel (and no, people under 35 don’t vote in other countries where they have more options, so cut the “they don’t vote because of the support for Israel” bullshit, they don’t vote because they’re young and don’t care)

        • John Richard@lemmy.world
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          16 hours ago

          Okay, well the Harris campaign can continue claiming that the reason she’s down in the polls in Michigan has nothing to do with Gaza.