If Israel de-occupies Palestinian and Lebanese land, stops blockading Gaza, stops blowing up chunks of it’s neighbors, then it removes any moral grounds for them to continue fighting Israel. Instead we’re to believe Israel is the defender when they’ve occupied their neighbors for 50+ years.
All of them. If you want to compare killing civilians there’s a graphic around here showing that Israel has killed far more, every year. Of course I wish they’d target active military and civilians involved specifically in Israel’s MIC. But if Israel’s strikes on hospitals are justified then so are the ones you’re worried about. You can’t have it both ways.
So, would you kill every single Israeli civilian if they were unable to leave Israel? Because that’s what Hamas and Hezbollah want to do, with the assistance of Iran.
Destroying Israel refers to the end of the Settler Colonialist Regime, which includes the Apartheid and Occupations. And instead a Regime Change in Palestine that has equal rights for both Israelis and Palestinians. It does not refer to the ethnic cleansing of all Israelis, that kind of mentality of ‘Transfer’ is central to Zionism, not Anti-zionism.
Did you really just link a verse from the Quran and attribute that to the entirety of Hamas and Hezbollah simply because they are Muslim? That is an incredibly racist thing to do.
I’m going to be charitable and assume you mean to reference the 1988 Charter of Hamas, which while unreasonable for wanting Sharia Law and belief in the antisemitic conspiracy theory of the Elder Protocols of Zion, does not call for the extermination of all Jewish People.
Hamas wants an end to Israel as an Apartheid State, not an extermination of all Israelis. Under Ahmed Yassin in the 1990’s, truces were offered in exchange for Israeli to withdrawal from Gaza and the West Bank to the 1967 borders. The 2017 Charter explicitly accepts a Two-State Solution of the 1967 Borders. Check Article 7 and 13 of the 1988 Charter to see yourself, compare it to Article 20 and 24-26 in the revised charter.
Any kind of conflation of Judaism and Zionism needs to be called out, regardless of who says it. That includes any members of Hamas, any other resistance group, or any Israelis who conflate them, intentional or not.
Trying to attribute a quote like that to an entire people, as an attempt to contextualize the Settler Colonialist violence of Israel towards Palestinians, is a terrible and disingenuous thing to do. It’s attempting to imply that Palestinians are fighting back out of some inherent Antisemitism, which is completely untrue, instead of fighting back against ethnic cleansing for their livelyhood.
It’s important to recognize where this conflation is coming from. Israel intentionally does this conflation to deflect any criticism as simply antisemitism, which comes at the expense of a rise of genuine antisemitism as they then point to the actions of Israel as representing all Jewish people. Which is obviously untrue. When the IDF destroys your house and kills your family, and then says it’s in the name of all Jewish people, it becomes harder for those people to got their house destroyed to make that distinction between Judaism and Zionism. So it is equally important to condemn the conflation and understand the context behind it.
If Israel de-occupies Palestinian and Lebanese land, stops blockading Gaza, stops blowing up chunks of it’s neighbors, then it removes any moral grounds for them to continue fighting Israel. Instead we’re to believe Israel is the defender when they’ve occupied their neighbors for 50+ years.
What percentage of these attacks on Israel is justified to you? Particularly the ones involving killing civilians.
All of them. If you want to compare killing civilians there’s a graphic around here showing that Israel has killed far more, every year. Of course I wish they’d target active military and civilians involved specifically in Israel’s MIC. But if Israel’s strikes on hospitals are justified then so are the ones you’re worried about. You can’t have it both ways.
So, would you kill every single Israeli civilian if they were unable to leave Israel? Because that’s what Hamas and Hezbollah want to do, with the assistance of Iran.
There you go again. Assuming facts not in evidence.
Per the Wilson Center, “Since its creation in December 1987, Hamas has invoked militant interpretations of Islam to spearhead a Sunni extremist movement committed to destroying Israel.”
Also according to them, Hezbollah’s leader Nasrallah has also repeatedly vowed to destroy Israel.
Would you like to dispute these statements?
Uh yeah, considering Nasrullah is fucking dead. And you’re reaching 37 years back for statements that have long since been updated.
Hamas moderated in the 2000’s and changed their charter in 2018.
But you just keep on trucking with the bad faith statements. Your own link points this out if you read more than 5 sentences.
Apparently Hamas didn’t moderate themselves enough to not kill 1,200 people on October 7th.
Because Israel showed them they didn’t get anything for moderation. Just more suffering.
Destroying Israel refers to the end of the Settler Colonialist Regime, which includes the Apartheid and Occupations. And instead a Regime Change in Palestine that has equal rights for both Israelis and Palestinians. It does not refer to the ethnic cleansing of all Israelis, that kind of mentality of ‘Transfer’ is central to Zionism, not Anti-zionism.
The Hadiths describe a future in which the war against the Jews - not Israel - is so successful that a tree/rock points out a Jew and asks for his death.
Did you really just link a verse from the Quran and attribute that to the entirety of Hamas and Hezbollah simply because they are Muslim? That is an incredibly racist thing to do.
I’m going to be charitable and assume you mean to reference the 1988 Charter of Hamas, which while unreasonable for wanting Sharia Law and belief in the antisemitic conspiracy theory of the Elder Protocols of Zion, does not call for the extermination of all Jewish People.
Hamas wants an end to Israel as an Apartheid State, not an extermination of all Israelis. Under Ahmed Yassin in the 1990’s, truces were offered in exchange for Israeli to withdrawal from Gaza and the West Bank to the 1967 borders. The 2017 Charter explicitly accepts a Two-State Solution of the 1967 Borders. Check Article 7 and 13 of the 1988 Charter to see yourself, compare it to Article 20 and 24-26 in the revised charter.
Any kind of conflation of Judaism and Zionism needs to be called out, regardless of who says it. That includes any members of Hamas, any other resistance group, or any Israelis who conflate them, intentional or not.
Trying to attribute a quote like that to an entire people, as an attempt to contextualize the Settler Colonialist violence of Israel towards Palestinians, is a terrible and disingenuous thing to do. It’s attempting to imply that Palestinians are fighting back out of some inherent Antisemitism, which is completely untrue, instead of fighting back against ethnic cleansing for their livelyhood.
It’s important to recognize where this conflation is coming from. Israel intentionally does this conflation to deflect any criticism as simply antisemitism, which comes at the expense of a rise of genuine antisemitism as they then point to the actions of Israel as representing all Jewish people. Which is obviously untrue. When the IDF destroys your house and kills your family, and then says it’s in the name of all Jewish people, it becomes harder for those people to got their house destroyed to make that distinction between Judaism and Zionism. So it is equally important to condemn the conflation and understand the context behind it.