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  • Was a while ago, i think i did. All I know is I worked trough the whole doc to upgrade start to finish because I didn’t know which sections apply to me and which don’t, it was like ten hours of work trying t o understand everything which, holly shit, wasn’t easy and when I finally got completely through it didn’t work as expected.

    Not that I think the docs were wrong, I am aware that I was the problem there, but it sometimes bothers me when people act like Linux is super easy and even grandma can understand and use it while I, the most techy persons in my peer group, give it my all and still dont even manage a simple upgrade, which would be absolutely no problem on the corporate OSs



  • Thats not what i experienced… Trying to run sketchup with wine, 3 days trial and error, doesn’t work even though winehq says its possible Using vive wireless? Not possible at all! or playing league, hard before vanguard, impossible after… Updating between major versions? Always breaks my setup and makes me start from scratch Using zoom for work with sharing desktop? Huge pita and u need to deepdive in Wayland to get I running (I didn’t so I switched back to x)! Install a non native daw like ableton and get it running without crashes and usable latency? Impossible! Using your rack audio interface? Not possible as there is no Linux driver and pipewire only recognizes half of the functions

    I have a ryzen 5 12 core and a Vega 64, so hardware is decent and clearly not the problem here.

    I am aware that those problems often stem from programs not being designed for Linux, not Linux itself being bad, but the effect is sadly the same: using halfbacked freeware or study IT to get it running, nothing apart from Mozilla “just works”


  • Havent brought myself to upgrade to 13 yet, but from 11 to 12 i followed to official guidlines, and when trying to reinstall my packages after kernel upgrade stuff got messed up. Packages didnt recognize their own config files anymore, wine completley behaved random, apt was flooded with error messages, the blzrry glassy Theme in I had in KDE plasma didn’t reinstall properly leaving my desktop looking horrible, half programs not working and some weird driver(?) behavior ( hanging Indefinitly when trying to shut down the system and stuff like that)

    Maybe all would have been fixable for someone smart enough, for me it was easier to start again from scratch.


  • Not to say you are wrong in general, just a personal anecdote: i run Debian, everytime i need to upgrade from one major Version to the next I work for a day, dont get it done, cry, and then setup all my 3 PCs from scratch. (And NO a rolling release like arch or tumbleweed is not the solution, as I am not smart enough to manage different versions of dependencies and everything breaks at somepoint, Debian is at least stable between the major releases) My vive wireless will not work under Linux so I need to keep a dual boot windows on the workhorse which is difficult to maintain itself sometimes. And on my low spec PC audio is never synched with video and no matter what I do I don’t get it fixed

    I love Linux for its philosophy and hate Microsoft for theirs, I will go back under no circumstances and agree that Linux gives better error messages and docs to fix things, but I never needed to do that with Microsoft. I never needed to open the registry apart from escaping out of box setup…

    User experience for someone with high technical expectations for what should be possible (vr, games, hi-fi cinema, CAD, DAW) but only moderate technical skills (I can navigate GUIs and make basic use of the terminal (grep, nano, apt) but if I try to understand English primary source docs I don’t get it as after ~7 years of Linux I still only know about 30% of the necessary concepts and vocabulary just isn’t that good… Like, Damm, its hard for someone without any technical training who only has a few hours a month to work on his PC (meaning having time to fix and learn stuff, not just using the PC) to get the stuff done which is a no brainer on win







  • For testing try the live USB sticks Just flash them to an empty stick with programs like etcher, then power dowb and select the stick in your bios (usually reachable by hammering f1, f2 or Del while starting

    (Remember that performance will be much better when installing it for real though)

    Dual boot will work and is not that hard to setup, but you should back up all your data before trying it.

    Also when dual booting to avoid duplicates etc I have all my documents and stuff on a USB stick, so I don’t have a version in my win and a version iny linux. Cloud works as well


  • Yes, ez one (if you have installed operating systems before and know how to paste an error passage into google ) -4hours and your done start to finish. (Given you have standard hardware and don’t want to set up something crazy like dual boot with raid and nas)

    Moderate complexity if you have never done anything like that, plan 2-6 evenings to get it fully working with everything you need

    Also: consider your scopes. For most cases Linux will just work, you just have to get used to some different interfaces.

    BUT: some things will not run under linux no matter how hard you try --> google if stuff you can’t live without will work

    (for me I still have a dual boot windows for playing league of legends and running my vive wireless adapter, as those will not run under Linux.

    For games use protonDB

    I may be oldschool, but for people not comfortable around terminals I would suggest Debian KDE as it never breaks and the transition from windows is easy. You can do everything from GUI (clicky button interfaces)

    For the installation of steam you might need a terminal, but there are good guides online (and you really dont need to be a wizard for that) from where you can just copy paste (when searching just add your distro e.g. “install steam Debian”, and once you’ve got that running you can just run every game from within steam.

    Since Steam has done a lot of work with proton, most games just run under Linux. In steam: Install–>play

    For nearly all games not directly running, you can just force them to run with proton. It will say: “Game not compatible” in steam, you just click the gear icon on the right to open settings, go to “compatibilty” and tick “force use of compatibility layer” and select the newest proton from the drop down

    The button where steam previously said “not compatible” magically turns into the blue “install” button we all know and love. And nearly all games run with only minor inconveniences (like showing keyboard hotkeys even when playing with a gamepad) or no issues at all.

    You need to be aware that some games using kernel level anticheat (e.g. league of legends, valorant) can not and will never run on Linux, if the developers of the games don’t add the possibility.

    EDIT: for programs not related to gaming its often easier to use an alternative, if the program is not available for Linux. Most times its also more privacy foccused, open source and free

    Adobe light room --> darktable

    Microsoft office --> libre office

    Adobe Premiere pro --> davinci resolve/shotcut

    Paint/Photoshop --> gimp/davinci/dark table

    Edge --> firfox

    Notepad --> Kate

    Fraps/relive/shadowPlay --> OBS

    Etc. Pp.