Rob Bos

That is not what I’m saying. And I’m done trying. Good luck.

I don’t even have a driver’s license so I can say it is technically possible to not drive!

And yeah I try to vacation close to home. Lots of great options. But nowhere warm in the winter.

I wish I could get somewhere tropical in the winter without flying. The USA is in the way.

Well, we’re having different discussions then. Good luck.

You keep focusing on capitalism, but I’m working a little more generally than that. Any system that has markets would have the same issue, even anarchist ones. There has to be some feedback mechanism to reduce negative externalities on the commons. A centrally planned economy would struggle with it, as well as a fully distributed one.

We shouldn’t let perfect be the enemy of good. We can do a lot of good with well thought-through taxes and regulations, and while it may not be ideal, it gets us toward a better world, a more sustainable world. We live in a highly dynamic system, and perfection is likely impossible and must take into account human irrationality.

Yeah, it’s a problem. Our society is only sustainable to the extent to which we capture externalities through regulation and taxes, and efforts to undermine that entire concept is infuriating.

I agree that capitalism (as distinguished from straight markets) is the problem, yeah. Especially the part where the accumulation of capital influences the future accumulation of capital via the political process and externalizes cost to the commons.

Markets only work to the extent that they capture all costs in some form. If something is cheaper than the actual cost to society, you end up with problems.

So if (for an impractical example) oil producers had to pay to capture and sequester all the CO2 and methane implied by their oil and gas extraction, as well as repair all the direct damage their wells do, etc, the market might sort itself out. The “true” cost of oil might be $1000/barrel, and society would adjust accordingly. Of course, the time between point A and point B would involve a lot of misery with our current society.

Under capitalism, it would be difficult, but well regulated markets should be able to manage limited resources. The problem is that the negative externalities of meat are not being adequately captured, and meat producers are abusing the general Commons without recompense. That needs to be fixed with taxes or regulations. Then the market can balance around the true cost of providing meat, which would be much higher.

edit: grammatical typo, finished a sentence

If someone drive a truck full of money up to my house, I’d be hard pressed to say no. See Notch and Minecraft.

That is a weird argument. TBH there are only like six ACTUAL temperatures: fucking hot, hot, warm, cool, cold, fuckin’ cold. Everything else is paperwork and doesn’t really inform your day to day. The difference between say 30 and 29C is maybe undoing a button on your shirt.

One quibble - it fully ignores humidity, as does C. The subjective feel of a climate doesn’t depend only on temperature. 50% humidity at 10C is very different from 50% at 40C.

Subjectively? I only really think there are like six temperatures. Fucking hot, hot, warm, cool, cold, fucking cold. My clothing choices change at each stage of that scale.

Just because F encapsulates that in a positive integer 1-100 scale doesn’t really make it appeal to me. C feels much more natural, more human, because you’re not dealing with ludicrously small increments that don’t matter for day to day use, and the 0-30 captures almost all temperatures you’re going to actually see day to day.

It irks me that people are trying to turn their personal prejudices and habits into like, objective universal laws.

There are very few places that experience -17C and 40C for that to be really useful. And I don’t get it at all. 0 is cold, 30 is hot. Not a difficult concept.

Intuition is entirely based on familiarity.

If a Nobel got him to calm down, I’d let him have it. It might as well be so much toilet paper anyway.

If Trump wants to go all full-dictator, he might as well look the part and adorn his chest with medals like a bird hoarding shiny objects.

Contemptible shitbag.

Regretzky, the Great Once, now a MAGA chud.

Pretty tragic. Though I imagine the USA has some wonderful places to visit, as well. I remember cheap flights to Vegas were a thing, they do that as a loss leader. Is that still a thing, or has the collapse progressed that far?

If you have a car (and being an American, you almost certainly would be car-poor), then that presumably opens up a lot of low-cost vacation options.

Not exactly millionaire money, though. It’s a fun vacation option and fairly reasonable as those go.

Wine tours are maybe a couple hundred dollars. We do 'em pretty often. Great deal and you often get a tour of the countryside as well. If you’re ever in the Kelowna, BC area, check it out.

They really did! Starship could be a similar leap, if it pans out. It would be an incredible jump in launch capacity and a dramatic drop in price.

FVO readable for future me, it’s not so bad. I don’t have to worry about other people so much. :)