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    Gang members everywhere. Some history of the modern lucky 13 tattoo tradition.

    TRIGGER WARNING FOR AMERICAN READERS: The popularity of the #13 in modern tattoo culture is possibly the work of an American who most likely, due to his historical actions, is a full supporter of the drumphkin regime.

    Americans are wild. The creator of the Friday the 13th tattoo ritual based on old sailing tattoo tradition is Oliver Peck, an American tattoo artist who has made this very popular within tattoo culture in the last several decades especially in North America but also around the globe. Every Friday the 13th he tattoos $13 #13 tattoos for 24 hours along with all the artists in his studio. This has caught on throughout the world and now many tattooists also do the same. Many enthusiasts have at least one lucky 13 tattoo amongst their collections. It is in reference to taking back the bad luck associated with Friday the 13th.

    Oliver Peck lives and works in DALLAS, TEXAS the heart of the bullshit movement and is even somewhat of a rich celebrity in his own right. He gets 1200 people to his shop regularly on Friday the 13th events and people travel from all over the world to get his art on them. He had a tv show for some time as well. Not sure if it’s still on tv.

    Oliver Peck is also known to be caught up in a lot of racially motivated hate controversy like blackface costumes and such. I’m not positive but I am quite certain he is a drumpist. He himself has a world record for tattooing the most 13’s in 24 hours. He also used to hold the record for the most #13 tattoos on one individual but I’m not sure if that still stands.

    No wonder your problems are so large. Very few of you even have any idea what you are talking about but you wildly profile people who like a kind of art. It’s weird and fucked up and led to the downfall of your society but I bet you’ll fight me about it. Or attack me for something I’ve said.

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    “Showing up on time” is the lowest possible bar, isn’t it?

    I’m reminded of the Chris Rock bit about people bragging about “paying their bills” and “taking care of their family” as if it’s a huge accomplishment. These are just things you’re supposed to do!

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      “Showing up on time” is the lowest possible bar, isn’t it?

      Recently I found an old school yearbook. My entry was written by someone who barely knew me. Said something about me showing up on time all the time. Now, I was like “holy shit that’s cringe, I don’t want that on my tombstone”.

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    The thing is, people can commit to different things. A classic saying in recovery is “If you put as much effort into your recovery as you did your addiction you would be on top of the world” or whatever. Would you walk 4 hours to make it to a job interview like you would to pick up heroin? etc

    Someone might be really into adorning their body with art, but maybe wont show up to crunch data and smile at customers.

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    Years ago I was asked by a recruiter if I had any tattoos and piercings - I don’t, but told them I wasn’t interested in working for a client who’d let that get in the way of hiring the right people.

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      yeah tattoo culture is really going through a massive shift. in 2010 no one in korea had tattoos, or if they did they kept them secret. the only ones with tattoos were involved in organized crime. if you took your shirt off at the bathhouse, people would get scared, that degree of discomfort.

      now you go to korea in 2025 and you see young people with tats everywhere!

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        That description of 2010 Korea sounds like Japan, except it hasn’t changed in Japan as it did in Korea. Some public baths outright ban people with tattoos. Tattoos are still pretty much a taboo (pun intended) in Japan.

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    I’ve got no problem with tattoos generally, but certain specific tattoos are red flags.

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        I must be a gang member as well my fellow enthusiast. They better come get me!

        Americans are wild. The creator of the Friday the 13th tattoo ritual based on old sailing tattoo tradition is Oliver Peck, an American tattoo artist who has made this very popular within tattoo culture in the last several decades especially in North America but also around the globe. Every Friday the 13th he tattoos $13 #13 tattoos for 24 hours along with all the artists in his studio. This has caught on throughout the world and now many tattooists also do the same. Many enthusiasts have at least one lucky 13 tattoo amongst their collections. It is in reference to taking back the bad luck associated with Friday the 13th.

        Oliver Peck lives and works in DALLAS TEXAS the heart of the bullshit movement and is even somewhat of a rich celebrity in his own right. He gets 1200 people to his shop regularly in Friday the 13th events and people travel from all over the world to get his art on them. Oliver Peck is also known to be caught up in a lot of racially motivated hate controversy like blackface costumes and such. I’m not positive but I am quite certain he is a drumpist. He himself has a world record for tattooing the most 13’s in 24 hours. He also used to hold the record for the most #13 tattoos on one individual but I’m not sure if that still stands.

        No wonder your problems are so large.

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        Thankfully no 88’s. I’m not familiar with the significance of 13, is it related to 1312? I just have the 1312 on the inside brim of a hat.

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          See my comment below /above for a brief explanation. I thought people might not know what this person was referring to.

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    I’m general I agree, but I draw the line at face tattoos. If you have face tattoos I assume you are dumb as sticks.

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      I feel like face tattoos are judged too harshly at one point in time all tattoos were judged as harshly as face tattoos are now. All of it is arbitrary who cares if someone chose to get a tattoo on their face?

      I wish people could do what they want to their bodies without judgment but I don’t see that ever happening.

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      I’ve seen people describe face and neck tattoos as the “everlasting job stopper”

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        Depends on the job tbh. I couldn’t care less about a software developer with face tattoos even if I think less of their life choices.

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      I would actually not care nor measure that into my judgment. At one particular time in their life, this felt like a great idea to them. We didn’t live their life, we can’t know. It might even make up for a great story to tell.

      And on top of that: I see no difference to make-up, except it’s permanent. Women paint their faces like they’re applying to Clowns college and noone bats an eye. A nice face-tattoo is just more plainly identifieable as paint than good makeup is.

      Not talking about a swastika or other stupid messages of course. If you portrait stupid messages I’m forced to deduct you’re stupid.

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        The permanence IS the most important difference though. One requires you to knowingly make the decision you’ll have it on your face forever.

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          So many decisions are permanent. Philosophically speaking, every decicsson is. If you decide to get that burito later you will forever be the person that decided to get that burito in that decision.

          Someone decides to go to college and spends 5 years there. That is forever. They can decide to go into a different profession of course or get a second degree in something else but those 5 years are gone. And that decision should be mutch mutch mutch more relevant to somebody hiring you that a cosmetic decision. And yet we say to children that they can change their courses and degrees if they are not right but we say a tatoo is a mark against you forever.

          Its 100% prejudice from a time when tattoos were (in western society) mainly related to gang association. A point that is 0% relevant today.

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            Yes, from a philosophical standpoint, even the water I just drank was a permanent decision.

            But face tattoos are a permanent change to your appearance that you KNOW you might be discriminated against for AND can’t cover up so making that decision implies that you don’t consider potential negative future effects of your actions, or don’t care.

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              You can absolutely cover up face tattoos. It’s even easier in colder climates. Also, and I know it’s a bit of a reach, but coming out publicly is a permanent change that you know you might be discriminated against for. Should everyone stay in the closet because it brings fewer negative future effects?

              Let people do what makes them happy, after all, it doesn’t hurt anyone (except themselves for a bit while getting it).

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                There are positive aspects to coming out if you’re in the closet. What’s the positive aspect of face tattoos?

                And I know about life in colder climates. When did you last have a job interview outdoors though?

                Yes, everyone is free to do it. Everyone else is also free to judge them for it though.

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        Make up not being permanent is a big reason why it’s perfectly OK to use it even if you look like a clown. I’m a dude and occasionally use make up at certain parties.

        You seem to agree with me that face tattoos are a terrible idea, but you empathise with their idiot younger selves. I get it, and probably IRL I would not be so merciless. But I prefer that my kids know that face tattoos are a terrible idea even if some people will show them some sympathy.

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          I prefer that my kids know that face tattoos are a terrible idea…

          Ever heard of a cyclical issue? Basically, you believe that people will think less of them for having face tattoos because you think less of people with face tattoos. You’re perpetuating the intolerance that you fear your kids would face.

          Tattoos don’t mean that you’re stupid, especially not in today’s world where tattoo removal is increasingly available to the laymen. What do you gain by judging people in that way? Just more reason to feel better than them?

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      I possibly would allow ones around the edges, and of course Maori face tattoos are fine; but otherwise, yeah.

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        OK, fine. I will take face tattoos on a case by case basis but they’re walking on thin ice.

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            Don’t underestimate the stupidity of white people looking for an identity to fill the void of meaning in their lives.

            Since New Zealand isn’t very big, there’s a good chance we’re just a fad away from having millions of 22 year olds getting shitty imitations onto their faces thus ruining it for the Maori.

            It’s not cultural appropriation BTW, because Kaylee and Braden absolutely do have Maori heritage 409 generations ago!

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    Tattoos also apparently taste bad, so they are also good at risk management, as they’re avoiding cannibals

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      so they are also good at risk management, as they’re avoiding cannibals

      Eh, I’d argue it’s actually the exact opposite of good risk management. They’ve spent a lot of time and money mitigating something that’s extremely unlikely to ever pose a problem. They should take a step back and reevaluate that risk matrix, maybe get a second opinion on it too.

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        Avoiding becoming long pork is as valid reason as any I suppose hah

        serious answer

        I think a lot of it was for identification of bodies if they are otherwise disfigured in death :3… as well as other things like superstition, or marking important achievements ^^

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    Or you’re a degenerate who lives with someone who owns a tattoo gun and you’re the guinea pig for them to practice on.

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    All I think is “oh, that person is either a tattoo artist (and friends with a bunch of them too), or good friends with one”. But thats just based off of my own experience, the people I know that are heavily inked are all tattoo artists or married to one.

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      I know a lot of heavily inked people, including myself not in that circumstance, but I am Canadian and live within a completely different society and culture. One more accepting of people who are different then them.

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    This entire thread just solidifies why 'murica is in the position it is with a dictator at the helm running the country full speed into a massive ship destroying iceberg made of money.