I can eat sushi, pizza, samosas, kebab (kabobs, döner or shawarmas depending on your frame of reference), gyoza/pot stickers/tortellone/pasteczki (or whatever), noodles/ramen/spaghetti, knödeln/kroppkakor and so on and so on. Leaving lots of cultures unsaid.
I can enjoy music, cringy cultural movies (animated and not), fun cirque sessions (even without animals being endangered), go to festivals for various cultures, enjoin then in our cultures of scouting, mountaineering, hiking and share my love of enjoying nature.
I can drive electric cars, communicate on Internet forums, keep in touch with new friends as well as loved ones across the world.
I would be in a much poorer world without you all.
Thank you Africa for your food.
No thanks to the economy refugee rapist assholes. Fuck you.
You can have culinary trends without migrants. Like sushi, the best sushi IMO is still the authentic sushi. Its neat I can get it in my vicinity though.
Street food fusion is a whole other level though. With that you couldn’t be more right. Craving late night street snacks now
Thanks India for the tutorials
No thanks for the call centers and bad hygiene
But in the end, it allows us to meme and joke on everyone, and that’s fantastic (south park mentality)
That makes me think the most exotic thing you ever ate is butter chicken and tikka massala.
Like the call center thing seems to be a bad stereotype (most Indians I have experience with were all very capable). Bad hygiene is a thing though. I love flood from allover India, but I rather get it served by an immigrant in my country, compared to actually getting it served in India. And most Indian restaurants have very passionate chefs who want to share their culture (of place of origin, India is biiiig) and bring the flavor to other parts of the world. Like, I’ve had dozens of bad food from different countries locally, but Indian food is not on that list. Curry with passion and love as secret ingredients really is the best.
We don’t have an Indian streetfood culture here though. You really need to go to a dedicated Indian restaurant.
I actually never really ate indian food and planned on testing soon! I love the taste of curry though
Like the call center thing seems to be a bad stereotype
it’s obviously a stereotype, but call centers are often associated with them because a lot of scammers are indian because it’s a pretty poor country and they have infrastructure to handle this
I love flood from allover India, but I rather get it served by an immigrant in my country, compared to actually getting it served in India
I would as well, I prefer my country’s hygiene norms and laws haha (and afaik their government and institutions are corrupted, as for many other countries, so better not to finance that)
I’ll stay away from bollywood though!
Ah yeah isn’t that nice to have underpaid third world wage slaves cooking for us? So wholesome
I really doubt that’s what OP meant, but if you want to fight allies to weaken the left as the right unifies to kill us, I can’t really stop you.
Should we start rewriting the comment to inform but not interfere? With a FTFY and strike through?
At least would be a fun trend to see I think
Looking back at the history of England. We have had wave after wave of immigrants/invaders. Each wave brought a period of tension. That period was followed by a period of innovation.
The new people, with new views means old ideas are re-evaluated. New skill, flavours and modes of thought became part of our culture.
Even our language improved. Part of English’s power is the level of nuance with word choice. A loft of that comes from melding multiple root languages in.
Obligatory Stewart Lee routine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y38pbfJ4i_U
The Normans did fuck things up, though.
As did the vikings. The long term results were generally an improvement however.
The Normans were third generation Viking settlers of France, so the Vikings did have a huge impact on the British isles for a few centuries there.
I’m from the bike/pedestrian-friendly community of /fuckcars. It’s a far whiter immigrant mentality, but I imagine trends like that wouldn’t have occurred if not for Dutch immigrants; or even American immigrants visiting the Netherlands, most specifically the Not Just Bikes channel.
dont let the fascist whoresons read this, they will frame you mentally deranged and a danger to their homogeneous society
Fuck their homogenous society, its total lack of art, its dog shit food, and its boring everything. Plus its queerphobia and intellectual stasis. Stillness is death. They have guns; they can get that for themselves any time they like.
Plus I’m kind of autistic. People already look too much the same. If they stopped being different colors and sizes with different types of hair i would not be able to go outside.
Some for me. So many cultures, languages and cuisines mixing. But in my case even im an immigrant but the plot twist is im european. Overheard someone talking about how bad immigrants are and they proceeded to say “but youre one of the good ones”. Only context you need to hear is im white.
“Unser Jud’ ist eh gut.”
That’s a sentence that was often used in Nazi Germany/Nazi Austria. It means “Our Jew is good anyway, [but the others are evil]”. It basically means that you keep believing the propaganda, even if the people you know don’t fit to the propaganda at all.
Nowadays this sentence is used to satirize the statement you posted.
“He’s one of the good ones,” is how people have always explained liking a minority that they know, while still being prejudiced against the rest of their race.
Good to know. It is exactly like this. Ive seen people say things like this while they had 5 friends who were from 5 different countries basically next to them. Its really sad when even some of the immigrants believe this shit.
Many immigrants think they can get on the good side of the xenophobes by becoming the “good” immigrants while putting the “bad” immigrants down.
The problem with that tactic is that xenophobes and especially xenophobic laws don’t distinguish between “good” or “bad”.
If immigrants badmouth other immigrants, the only thing that xenophobes take from that is “even the immigrants think immigrants are bad”.
You see a lot of that happening in the USA, where frequently family members of MAGA voters are taken by ICE, because they aren’t going after the “bad” immigrants, but after immigrants, period. Even if their family voted for the people who are now taking them.
And that’s the real take-away. When it comes to lawmaking, you can either be for immigrants or against them. There’s no nuance. Because lawmakers don’t put any in.
Agreed 100%. Unfortunately the people who need to read this are not on Lemmy.
No, I’m pretty racist and needed to read this. /s
Well, by the look of this comment section there’s at least one who really needed to hear the message, but seemingly didn’t take it to heart.
I’ve seen a few anti-immigrant comments pop up around here that have been upvoted and they’ve made me pretty sad.
This thread makes my immigrant ass happy though so thank y’all.
It didn’t take long before they started deporting anyone and everyone. By no means just violent criminals. Horse shit.
What happened to the bull(shit)?
You want to diversify your shit.
But careful not to go apeshit.
No, that’s fine if it’s sufficiebtly processed. You want it to be from a vegan though.
Oh ok.
I immigrated to the US when I was too young to make that decision myself. Now I’m immigrating to another country. I literally don’t know what it’s like to not be an immigrant, and I’m tired of receiving nothing but hate for it. At least my new city is more welcoming.
Which country now?
How dare you not pledge your undying allegiance to the spot of dirt that you were born on!??!?!?
What’s it called when you live on the right side and agree with the labels?
Woke. I think.
Ah, the original, unironic meaning, now largely extinct through misuse.
A shithole.
Exactly don’t people understand these foreigners steal our jobs, while at the same time they are all lazy and live on welfare?
And ‘defend’ it by destroying all other lifeforms nearby (regardless of whether they precede you)??
Reminds me of this for some reason
I dunno, the left path looks far easier because it’s far less uphill
That is pretty on the nose, but still an interesting perspective.
It might be on the nose, but we sure as hell have regressed in my short lifetime.
Completely agree! The concept of Culinary Diplomacy is actually practiced by a few countries around the world and is often implemented in partnership with emigrants from those nations. South Korea did this with their “Kimchi Diplomacy” back in 2009 and it was considered very successful. It is one of the reasons Korean food became so popular here in the U.S. around then. Culinary Diplomacy
Hollywood and the anime industry have done much the same - helping people around the world normalize the feeling of living in their home societies.
Never read about SK or China (just not familiar, not to say it doesn’t exist) doing this but Thailand went all in.
https://www.foodrepublic.com/1318428/how-gastrodiplomacy-brought-thai-food-world-stage/
I think the Chinese government also supported the Chinese restraunt industry similarly in the US
I think Chinese food spread was more organic, they helped each other immigrate, shared recipes, and acted almost like a franchise in how new restaurants were chosen in unserved areas and given a general playbook
And then the Thai government did it more formally, Korean culinary movement copied the success (or maybe the other way around)
What I’m gathering is Indian government is incompetent af and our foods become popular on their own.
I mean… They kind of didn’t though
In major cities, sure. Even smaller ones will have Indian places. But they’re proportional to the amount of Indians in an area
Because there’s a big difference… Everyone can go to a Chinese restaurant and confidently order. Everyone knows what sushi is, even if some people don’t eat it. Thai foods are less known, but the menus are very Americanized, so you go once and you get the idea
I know the good Indian restaurant back home, but I only know the dishes by color. Lots of naan and wet dishes… They were good, but I couldn’t tell you what they were. And if the sign says Indian food, I don’t know what they serve. So I’ve only been to the one place
Vindaloo and curry? That is everywhere, but I’ve never had an Indian version of it. The British spread vindaloo and curry spread itself
Yup, and we have so many different regional cuisines but you’ll mostly just find north Indian and a little bit of south Indian restaurants in the US
and so many korean markets chains opened up, and people are lovign it.
Seriously, HMart is the shit. The produce is generally WAY better than you can get at “normal” markets - largely because their stock actually gets cleaned out and turned over on a regular basis.
Fun fact for you: All döner is kebab, but not all kebab is döner. Because döner is just a type of kebab (grilled meat on a stick). Which also means that shawarma’s status as kebab is questionable, as it’s
usuallysometimes roasted or pan fried, as far as I know.The name shāwarmā in Arabic is a rendering of the term çevirme in Ottoman Turkish (چيويرمى [tʃeviɾˈme], lit. ‘turning; hence, roughly synonymous to döner in this context’), referring to rotisserie.>
So maybe it depends whose version of shawarma you’ve had. All the ones I’ve seen so far (in different European countries) have been with rotisserie /doner kebab.
Names seem interchangeable in many places, in my experience. When I was a kid the difference between kebab and shawarma used to be that one was in a bun and the other was a wrap, for some reason. The bun has been phased out, unfortunately, and now it’s only wraps everywhere.
Thanks for that etymology bit. I wonder why I never bothered to check, but it makes perfect sense, as I know Turkish.
And yeah, I should have used “sometimes” not “usually”. Pan fried shawarma is a thing, while döner isn’t, so depending on the way it’s prepared it may technically not be kebab.
Btw, kebab doesn’t need to involve any bread element whatsoever. In fact, in places that use the term natively, it usually isn’t. Kebab is just any grilled meat on a stick, and often is just the equivalent of BBQ.
Pan fried shawarma is something Im still trying to get used to. The Lebanese Shawarma places in Ottawa all stack the chicken on a stick rotisserie and it is cooked exactly like the lamb or beef kebabs, they then slice thin portions off of it just the same.
It wasnt until I moved out west that I ever saw Shawarma done any other way, and everything out here has been disappointing by comparison.
