For so long we have always referred back to Nazi Germany as the last massive fascist and authoritarian takeover, but with America at the gates ready to go full fascist, the Germans must atleast be relieved that in a few years we will be talking about MAGA America instead of Nazi Germany.
W for the Germans I suppose.
what do you mean ready to go full fascist? They’re already there.
I think Putin and Netanyahu are a lot further along on this path. We will be spoiled for choice of places to refer back to.
Israel has actual protests against the government ongoing. It’s not clear if Netanyahu will manage to win the next election.
There are no protests in Russia at all and elections are a farce.
“Damn, hella dangerous in here. Better cancel elections until the war is over. Can’t have our innocent civilians gathering at a voting place”
What country are you talking about?
Unfortunately the AFD in Germany got record aupport in the last election.
Germany sees America go full nazi.
Germany: Hold my over sized beer!
Believe it or not, we’d prefer no fascists anywhere.
Glad it was already said, and by an actual German no less!
I was going to say “If I know Germans, they’re not happy. They’d rather leave fascism in the past and not have it exist anywhere. Also, whatever new government exists in the future, they’d like it to be really efficient, but also have triplicate paperwork. Which is somehow filled out easier than most single sheet forms.”
But then you came in, and summed up everything I was going to say.
Except those Germans who still think being a Nazi is great. Of which there’s a whole Eastern Germany worth of.
This is the correct response.
88 upvotes, perfect 👌🏼
exactly what a Nazi would say
For sure, but, I mean, if there had to be some, glad it ain’t here, amiright?
I’m German and terrified. I find it difficult to grasp that the playbook that was used in Nazi Germany is right there to compare, how the whole thing happened has been taught in schools to several generations in a row, there’s memorial places to visit - the whole wealth of information is there so it doesn’t happen again!!
And here we are, and it is happening again - in what seems an even more overt way than old Adolf ever dared to pull off. They just built a concentration camp in Florida and are loudly bragging about it. People are randomly being kidnapped from the street, based not even on their immigration status but their skin color, by groups of unidentified thugs. All while the media - even international media - still seem to be unable to call “Fascism” to what is happening.
I would have hoped that us being the eternal Nazis would at least have a deterring effect on other people to not fall into the same trap.
I think it’s partly that people think you can stop fascism with robust political structures and by cracking down hard on fascists. That approach doesn’t work, so long as the material conditions that lead to fascism exist it will come about.
Yeah, I’m fine with being reminded of our country’s past again and again if it means others don’t do the same bullshit.
And other countries - including Germany ofc - are copying it.
I think there are also some interesting similarities with Mussolini. Just think of the role media played. Trump was really active on Twitter, while Mussolini used Il Popolo d’Italia newspaper to spread his message.
It all started again with the ‘I didn’t do that, how long have we got to apologize?!’ mindset.
Horrified seems more likely
They are, Germans today don’t fuck around with that, they punish it heavily like the US should have.
Unless it’s Israel. Then, they confuse antisemitism with valid criticism of genocide, due to guilt over the Holocaust.
They really don’t amd honestly never did. Less people were punished at nuremburg than there were guards at Auschwitz. Many nazis got domestic government positions within years of the Paris Peace treaties and some got greater european positions of power like Chairman of the NATO Military Committee. Not to mention the many Nazis who were taken in by the US including the Butcher of Lyon who got a position with the US intelligence services where he hunted communists and taught torture. These days the AFD with direct nazi ties and explicit fascist ideology is doing great. Germany was never actually de-nazified
The Americans DID punish fascism severely. My grandfather stormed the beaches on D-Day. He lost his best friend from grade school. They were barely out of high school.
As for the Americans of today? I don’t consider maga to be American. Just like I don’t consider confederates to be Americans.
I’m gonna guess that most Germans aren’t actually viewing the situation as a zero-sum game. So no, I don’t think the US breaking bad is going to make Germans happier, in general.
Actually as a german it does feel pretty shitty to see fascism rise in America and all around the world…
Even here in Germany the far right is growing stronger and it feels like history repeating.
I mean, Merz is pretty fucking right wing.
Yes, but Spahn is the real danger (besides AfD, of course).
Nah, Merz is just as dangerous.
And already has a proven track record of willingly and knowingly voting with then you further his “ideas”
Because everything everyone thinks everywhere is always about america…
America also supplying the bombs for Israel to genocide Palestinians
At least he’ll be out in three and a half years
He may be not out, and he also may be replaced by someone even worse, as difficult as that may be to imagine now.
Doesn’t America not have a rule where they can only serve two terms? Does this count as his second? or is it only for consecutive terms?
I’m not holding my breath on that, given how nobody is holding him accountable for shit and being allowed to do whatever the fuck he wants; the rule of law be damned.
even if he is out 3.5years he is already doing so much damage.
At one of his nazi rallies, he told his sheep out loud that “when [he] wins, you’ll never have to vote again.”
Germany support the new nazim which is zionism
I don’t know why you’re being downvoted.
Unfortunately due to their history and education a lot of Germans are allergic to criticism of Israel and the notion of zionism being genocidal and essentially fascist by now.
Don’t get me started…
