The recent recognitions of a Palestinian state and the October 10 ceasefire have been followed by a flurry of calls to “deradicalize” Palestinian society. The New York Times editorial board went so far as to compare this deradicalization project to the denazification of Germany after the Second World War. These calls have the situation backwards to the point of farce.
Israel didn’t respect the Oslo accords so PA shouldn’t keep respecting it either.
I condemn Israel first, the Arab traitors and western countries Israel supporters seconds and the occupation collaborators the PA last.
Easy to pontificate to the Palestinians what they should or shouldn’t do.
Support for Palestinian factions: support for Hamas declines by 4-points while support for Fatah remains unchanged. The decline in support for Hamas came from the West Bank. Support for Fatah is higher in the Gaza Strip than in the West Bank and support for Hamas is also higher in the Gaza Strip than in the West Bank. In both areas, support for Hamas is higher than the support for Fatah.
Support for Palestinian leaders: If presidential elections were held between three candidates, Marwan Barghouti of Fatah, Mahmoud Abbas of Fatah, and Khalid Mishal of Hamas, Barghouti would receive 50% of the vote, followed by Khalid Mishal and Abbas.
The release of Marwan Barghouti is supported by Hamas but not by the Palestinian Authority
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/war-gaza-palestinian-authority-oppose-marwan-barghouti-release-negotiations#%3A~%3Atext=The+source+added+that+senior%2Cof+PA+President+Mahmoud+Abbas.
Marwan Barghouti is a member of Fatah.
The JCPA that you cite is a conservative Israeli think tank…
Edit: You changed the citation.
Sure Abbas doesn’t want him out, but Fatah is not Abbas and Abbas is not Fatah. Fatah is a mass organization.
Barghouti is one of the few good people left in Fatah and the PA refuse to release him. Fatah abandoned him . I also updated my link with a pro Palestine source instead. The JCPA still a proof that Israel use the PA while insulting it at the same time . Collaborators like Abass are not respected neither by Palestinians and neither by Israeli
I think we are not too divergent in our preferences here. We both support Barghouti. Abbas is a 90 year old mummy, one foot in the grave. Not that relevant much longer.
And Fatah do not support his release while Hamas does
He is going to be either replaced by another Puppet or Israel may decide to officially annexing the West Bank and dissolving the Palestinian Authority altogether
And where exactly do you place Hamas with their bombing campaign that led to Netanyahu, who wanted to end Olso, being elected to replace Peres, who wanted to enact it?
Israel want the whole land since it’s creation so stop blaming everything on Hamas . Hamas reply to occupation brutality that’s all and occupier force always committed more crimes against any act of resistance . The plo respected the term, Israel didn’t because they do not want peace. If you accept Israel excuses you are not better than any Zionist
After the formation of a large army in the wake of the establishment of the state, we will abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine - Ben Gurion
Partition might be only a temporary arrangement for the next twenty to twenty-five years - Chaim Weizmann
There will be no Palestinian state—this land is ours - Netenyahu on September 11, 2025
You seem to struggle with the concept that Israel (and Palestine) consists of more than one person or faction and that there are factions that want peace and factions that want war. Hamas made sure the Israeli faction that wanted peace lost power in '96
You seem to not understand that treaties and deals do not become null when a prime minister or president change . The accords was between Israel as a state and the PLO. Netanyahu represent the state of Israel, Hamas is not a member of the PLO. So Israel can’t claim Hamas actions make the accords null and no matter who is wrong illegal settlements are never justified. Genocide is never justified either
Yeah I’m sure Netanyahu is really impressed with you being upset that he did exactly what he promised to do if he got elected… And apparently not caring about Hamas enabling him to do so at the same time
Netanyahu love that you shift the blame to Palestinians and use his excuses as valid reasons for the state of Israel continue occupation, continue stealing wesbtbankers land and allow the settler terrorists to attack Palestinian civilians
Well I’m not saying, as you seem to hinge your argument on, that Netanyahu is blameless
I mean, he ran his election campaign on it! lol
I’m saying Hamas should not be excused for helping him win it.
Here we go again you keep talking about Netanyahu which we all know he is a terrible war criminal. Yet you can’t admit that Israel always wanted the whole land . I showed you that Shimon Perez who was his opponent was as bad as Netanyahu. I showed you Israeli leaders all over the decades defending occupation. I will repeat them again
https://www.972mag.com/yitzhak-rabin-oslo-accords-aoc/
https://www.palquest.org/en/historictext/24965/yitzhaq-rabin’s-address-knesset-after-israeli-palestinian-agreement
We would like this to be an entity which is less than a state, and which will independently run the lives of the Palestinians under its authority. The borders of the State of Israel, during the permanent solution, will be beyond the lines which existed before the Six Day War. We will not return to the 4 June 1967 lines. Yitzhak Rabin
There is Israeli leaders that are less honest than others that’s all. All of them do not want a Palestinian state
There we go with people who think Netanyahu is the only problem and not the Zionist ideology that radicalized Israelis and is the reason why Israel is maintaining occupation . Netanyahu winning has nothing to do with Hamas.
Answer this simple question. Do you think Israel want to end occupation if Hamas is destroyed?
You really need to read up on the political situation in Israel in the mid-'90s
You need to read who was the main opponent against Netenyahu. He was one of the early Israeli leaders that supported the building of settlements
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20160928-shimon-peres-israeli-war-criminal-whose-victims-the-west-ignored
It is pretty clear that you hide behind Hamas and Netenyahu to defend Israel which never wanted peace based on their leaders themselves